About

pancreatitisHi there, my name is Paul Miller aka The Health Guy. I am just an average ordinary guy who was diagnosed with acute and chronic pancreatitis years ago. I learned how to beat it.

I am NOT a doctor.

I haven’t even attended college or a University.

There probably isn’t one good reason you should listen to me except …

I’ve been there, done it.

I’ve got the pancreatitis t-shirt.

I know what I am talking about when it comes to pancreatitis.

I’ve invested tons of hours, led by Almighty God, learning how to heal myself. I had divine help both in staying alive and finding the information I needed in order to learn how to heal so …

My Almighty, Most High, Living God gets ALL the Glory!

The BIG Difference

The BIG difference between what you hear or read from me or some other person whether they are a doctor, nurse or your neighbor is that I AM HEALED.

I’m NOT cured but I am healed.

Which means I don’t suffer acute  or chronic pancreatitis symptoms. I don’t feel sick like I did years ago and I KNOW what you are going through. In other words I’ve been there, done it, went through it. I own the t-shirt. I won.

I have several sites about pancreatitis and for those who suffer (HubPages, two (2) blogs and two (2) Facebook pages). Some people who have read my stuff and tried what I do, have left comments. You may want to read the comments on all the sites to learn what others say about my regimen and what I do.

Great CT Scan Results! (“no evidence of disease in pancreas”)

This is ONE of the best comments I have seen posted on any of my sites:

Woman-Dancing-On-Beach“Hi!

I thought I´d share my story on this post since I got some very happy news yesterday.

A little under a year ago I was diagnosed with chronic pancreatitis after several bouts of stomach pain over a period of about five years, the last one lasting for several weeks with fever and everything.

I was sent to ultrasound and there the radiologist found scar tissue having formed in my pancreas and he said that this was caused by inflammation of the pancreas due to drinking too much (which is what caused the attacks) and ordered me to stop drinking altogether. I haven´t touched alcohol since.

Shortly after I came over this blog and adopted the regime of a low fat diet, grape seed, vitamin C, curcumin and enzymes before meals. I also took Ibuprofen whenever I felt the slightest sign of pancreatic stomach pain (you kinda know how it feels if you´ve had it before). I also made sure to get cardio-vascular exercise at least three times a week and have a certain amount physical activity every day (walks, biking etc).

CT-scanYesterday I got the results from a recent CT scan, (which is a more precise form of diagnosis than ultrasound) and to my suprise they found “no evidence of disease in pancreas”. This means that the scarring in my pancreas has healed in less than a year and I stand a much better chance of escaping this horrible disease, and the future looks bright!

I will continue to stay away from alcohol, and will also continue to take supplements, although maybe not as many as before, just to stay on the safe side.

This goes to show that there is indeed hope if you get an early diagnosis and implement measures immediately and stick to them.”

The above comment was posted on my other blog. You’ll have to find it but you can read it in original form here.

My Pancreatitis Info Can Be Found In These Places

pancreatitis-infoI have I think 5 sites about pancreatitis. This one you are on now is going to be my major focus point but …

Here’s my other sites:

Living With Pancreatitis (HubPage)

Overcoming Pancreatitis (original blog)

Pancreatitis Cure (Facebook Page)

Beating Pancreatitis (Facebook Page)

This Beating Pancreatitis blog that you are on right now is the best place to obtain my information. Right now it contains about 70 pages and posts. Some of the best free information you’ll find anywhere about pancreatitis. It will have more information including a forum as soon as I get it working properly.

I welcome questions, comments, your stories but …

I can NOT give blatant medical advice.

I will answer all questions to the best of my ability using the terminology “If it were me” as often as I can remember to do so because that can only be construed as telling you what I would do or have done, not suggesting that you do or take anything I say as medical advice.

I am not here to give advice.

I am simply sharing knowledge, stuff I learned and/or figured out that works for me.

Will what I do work for you?

All I can say is that there are others who have adopted my regimen (lifestyle changes via diet and supplements) and some are feeling much better and as far as I know none have died or gotten worse simply because they adopted my eating and supplement lifestyle.

None of my sites are about making money via the suffering of pancreatitis patients.

I make a buck if you buy stuff on this site and it’ll help support my coffee addiction 🙂 however; you can get all the supplements at your local health food store.

It doesn’t matter to me. In fact …

Going to your local health store makes more sense, especially if you are sick as you read this. You could have them today by going to the store.

happy-danceJust try the supplements because they work, at least for me they work.

In the right doses they may also work for you.

Just remember the supplements aren’t a cure.

They aren’t miracle potions that will allow you to eat or drink whatever you want but coupled with a low fat pancreatitis diet they may help change your life into a whole new ball game.

You may be the next person doing the happy dance and wouldn’t that be cool? 🙂

For me it took BOTH diet and supplements.

I’ve been told I should write a book. I have no intention of writing and selling a book or becoming famous. In fact, I would rather not. My mission is to simply share, what Almighty God taught me, what I did to heal and still do to stay well.

That’s it.

The info is free.

I wish you healing and better health.

Oh wait …

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one-favor-pleaseIf you like this blog and the beating pancreatitis information contained herein please do me a favor and “like” my blog, pages and posts on Google+ and Facebook. Tweet it, Pin it and so on.

I’m not sure exactly how much doing so helps my blog to rank in search results but I know it helps and I’ll appreciate the help! You’ll find the “like” and “share” buttons at the bottom of each page or post. Thank you! :-)

Good luck and God bless you!

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  1. Hi paul ,
    Thanks for your great help by sharing your experience . I wanted to ask you that , my mom is a patient of chronic pancreatitis and recently she is feeling that whenever she eats the pain disappears for some time …..Though other times she has high intensity pain . What do you think ?

    She is on 80% vegan diet and also taking the supplements .

    Thanks
    Aakash Girdhar (INDIA)

    1. Hi Aakash – What is an 80% vegan diet? Does that mean she is eating 20% bad stuff (red meat, pork, oils, other high fat content foods) or veggies, grains, legumes with some chicken and fish? How much of the grape seed extract, curcumin and vitamin C is she taking each day? Most people with damage don’t see dramatic results without taking high doses of grape seed extract (600 mgs or more each day spread out over 3 – 4 doses). If she doesn’t get relief with 600 mgs of grape seed extract try more. Increase the doses slowly until she gets relief. The same with the C. Large doses. Curcumin should be around 500 mgs 2 – 3 times per day. Be advised – Large doses of curcumin can cause stomach upset in some people so less is often better.

  2. Paul,

    Di you ever completely lose your appetite during this ordeal?… If so, how long did it take to come back?

    Thanks,

    Lee

    1. Lee, heck ya I lost my appetite. Almost every time I ate I got VERY sick (when I was really ill). And when I’m in massive gut pain, like with AP (acute pancreatitis) or have nausea the last thing I am is hungry. Then, I simply became AFRAID to eat. What happened from eating simply wasn’t a fun experience! How long it took for my appetite to come back is a great question. Unfortunately I don’t have a great answer. I simply don’t remember. I do know that when I didn’t feel hungry and ate anyway, usually to please some family member, I got sick. So what I can tell you, emphatically, is that if you aren’t hungry, I mean HUNGRY, don’t eat. It isn’t worth it. Don’t worry about losing weight. You won’t die because of not eating for a couple days or even a week or more unless you have some underlying issues. However going past a week with no food of any kind is pushing the envelop. That’s why I suggest organic vegetable juice. If you can’t make your own, buy some low-sodium V8. It isn’t organic but it works.

  3. Paul,

    Sorry for the misspelling on the last post ;-)… I am asking because I haven’t had an appetite at all for six days but have been juicing to slow down the weight loss.

    Thanks again,

    Lee

    1. Hey Lee, 6 days isn’t long. I’ve went for almost 4 weeks with nothing but juice (after some of the worst AP’s). Just was to sick to be hungry and knew if I ate I was gonna pay. You’re welcome, hope you feel better soon.

  4. I do not have acute pancreatitis (yet and hoping to avoid) though many mysterious pancreas-related events have been happening over the past few years (nausea, difficulty digesting processed foods of any kind, difficulty digesting fats/carbs/sugars, and most recently pancreas pain and a skin rash). I already conquered chronic fatigue and fibromyalgia holistically, so I know the rudiments of healthy living, diet, and exercise. But, what may have appeared as celiac may in fact be low-grade acute pancreatitis. Am fasting for half my day and eating small amounts of yellow squash, lentils, and kale while juicing since I am a breastfeeding mother while I try to dig out of my first encounter with pancreas pains. Ordered curcumin as well as some other supplements. So thankful my mom is an herbalist. My question is, in your opinion, do you think pancreas issues once begun will always be chronic and therefore my lifestyle must completely be built around avoiding triggers from this day forward? How long should I remain vegan? Any guesses? If I cannot completely fast for 3-5 days while I breastfeed, would you suggest a total fast once baby is weaned (in about 6 more months)? Baby girl is 18 months. I could start weaning her now of necessary. Thoughts? Resources?

    1. Hi Noelle,

      Have you been tested for celiac disease? You have a lot of classic symptoms, rash and all. IF you haven’t been tested you should be. Has any doc looked at your pancreas in any way (blood enzyme levels, ct scan, etc)? The reason I keep asking about your doc visits and any diagnosis’ is because I have had many people, like you, ask me about my thoughts regarding their symptoms and I can’t legally diagnose or play doctor. Plus what you and others think (who haven’t been diagnosed properly) in regards to pancreas pain could actually be coming from the intestines or liver, both reside in the area. In certain instances it could also be gallstone/gallbladder disease symptoms (this has turned out to be the actual case in several). So IF you have not gotten a complete evaluation, including all appropriate tests necessary for an accurate diagnosis I would suggest you start there. Your mom may be an herbalist but like me she isn’t a doc and like me she can’t perform the clinical tests necessary to pinpoint an accurate diagnosis. An accurate diagnosis is critical. Without that everyone is guessing. Good luck to you, I hope you find a good doc 🙂

  5. Thank you so much for sharing your wealth of knowledge. I have referred people to your website and will continue to do so. Soon I will be creating a pancreatitis tab on my blog and will be referring people to your site. Check out my blog at jillshope.blogspot.com.
    Also, thought you’d be interested in our latest pancreatic attack experience…Spent another week in the hospital with my husband for his 6th pancreatic attack over the Christmas holidays. I know that these attacks are happening because toxins from toxic mold exposure have colonized in his gut, but the whole medical profession looks at me like I am a complete moron. Never mind that I have credible tests showing toxic mold found in the house we were living in and tricothecenes (the most deadly of the toxic molds) were found in my husbands urine and I have been working with one of the top toxologists in the US. Their way is THE only way and because I need their help with pain management we are forced into doing things their way. The ER doctor that was on call took the whole 30 min. that she legally had to respond to my husband’s plight for pain control while he lay there in horrific pain. Then she comes into the room and very rudely ask if he is going to listen to her this time (the last visit he had 5 mos. ago this same dr. had him in tears because she basically called him an idiot for not having his gall bladder removed)? To say I was irate is an understatement. I calmly ask her if she could please get his pain under control and then we could take the conversation in the hall. What I wanted to do was punch her in the face, but I figured it would not be a great idea for my 7 children to have their mother in jail and their father in the hospital. They held him in the hospital for a week until they could remove his gall bladder. Yes, legally we could have left, but to willingly get help from them in the future would have been next to impossible. When they did take out his gall bladder there were no stones (which is what all of the many tests he had run showed), but they did find black sludge which from what I’ve read is the build up of the toxins in the gall bladder which was its way of protecting the other organs. So now I still have to take the time to do the 3 mo. mold killing cleanse (a very intense diet and supplements) and we have to make up for what the gall bladder is no longer able to do. Is all I wanted was one more chance so that I could do a cleanse (we got out of the toxic mold environment and seemed to be doing better so we started to get lax). Now the medical community is convinced that they have once again saved the day as he is eating again. We will do the cleansing work (which was the root of the problem in the first place) behind the scenes and they will be more set in their ways because they think what they did fixed the problem. While at the hospital I was shocked by how many people told me their stories of having their gall bladders removed and everyone acted like it was no big deal, including the surgeon who very matter of factly stated to me that “you don’t need a gall bladder.” As nicely as I could I just responded that the God I knew was very intelligent and would not create an organ that we didn’t need. I recognize that there are some that have to have their gall bladders removed, but I fear that has become the latest “fad” in the medical community and studies in the future will show that this was a big mistake. For now I will just carry on using the humor from my sister who commented that at least I now only have 5 organs to worry about! Grrrrrrrr!!!!

  6. Hello Health Guy! Thanks for you response. I had the Celiac blood test 6 years ago and it was negative. It was the opinion of my doctor then that I did not have Celiac. However, a pain specialist doctor was pretty convinced I have Celiac but did not want to do further tests just to put something on my chart. She suggested I follow the SCD eating plan laid out in the book Breaking the Vicious Cycle. I did for almost two years and healed tremendously. Then, I got married and strayed from SCD eating plan. Anyway, paying for that now. Pretty sure this is a Celiac inflammatory reaction as you suggested. I was unaware that Celiac can be accompanied by that tell-tale rash and that level of pain. Been grain, refined sugar, dairy, and meat free for three weeks now. The pain and rash are gone. I feel great! Taking Curcumin anyway since it is so anti-inflammatory. Thanks again for your answer.

  7. Hi Paul,

    A sincere thank you!

    I am 53 yrs. young, 160 lb.’s and pretty good shape.

    I have recently been diagnosed with AP, been having the pain for over two years but only lasted for 3-5 days and would only come every other month or so. Last June the pain started coming every other week (I was still drinking alcohol then) and ended up in the ER with pain. Of course the young doctor bone head sent me home with “nothing wrong with you” and the next morning after the meds wore off I was right back in the ER only with a better doc and more tests. My GE doc came up with the diagnosis and I quit the alcohol, caffeine, sweets, fats…you name it. Problem was I quit so much I didn’t know what my alternatives were and kept relapsing, about every two weeks for 3-5 days of pain. A little fat to me was a chicken breast with Marsala sauce – wrong. I thought since I quit all that stuff in my regular diet a little now and then would be okay – way wrong…Then my loving wife found your blog!

    Sorry for the ramble but I am in the middle of an attack as I write this and my wife is shopping for veggies, white grapefruit juice and Motrin. Today I begin the “regimen” starting with food diary and will let you know how it goes. I now have some direction thanks to your blog, my doc is good but never told me this stuff.

    Thanks again, I’ll try to post as I go through the next few weeks. I’m in it to win it!

    Take care,
    Steve T.

      1. Okay, well its been a few weeks now and have had relatively no pain. By that I mean when I feel an attack coming on I go to the “safe place” diet as prescribed and take Motrin and Tylenol together. The attacks have been only lasting a day or half-day and I have been introducing things like Shrimp and Fish with no problem. Its really hard to go out to eat, that is the stumble point; on the road and hungry, get a Kale salad form a deli…oops, its laden with oil…but I’m starving so I eat it…sure as shit a day or two later here it comes….but since I am taking the enzymes and my diet is 98+% good it only lasts a short day or half. Immediately go to broth, Grapefruit juice and V8. So seems like I am almost in control but need more discipline.

        The world we live in is like a field of landmines for the diet we need and I have found that when going out with friends I preview the menu of the place we will go and decide on what I will eat before I leave the house; “I’ll have the shrimp tacos with no sauce or sour cream please, I am on a strict diet of no fat or oils, please tell the chef” It seems to work – somewhat. I have thought of writing down my request and just handing it to the server also, otherwise in a business situation the conversation always turns to my AP (ugh).

        Thanks again, you are a life saver and I’ll keep updating to give hope to others.
        ST

  8. I’ve been having pancreatic attacks every 3 months since having my gall bladder taken out 2 yrs ago. Right now I’m in the middle of an attack and was wondering if I should take my pancreatic enzymes while having pain (and not eating anything) or only when eating. I plan on trying your system when I feel good enough to go shopping.

    1. Hi Tina – I apologize this is a late reply but anytime you are in an acute attack you shouldn’t eat and taking enzymes without food would do more harm than good. In fact if you are in an acute attack you should probably go to the hospital. Just because I’m a stubborn idiot doesn’t mean it is a good thing to emulate. I hope you are feeling much better by now.

  9. Dear Paul, I have just printed off your entire website, including comments, for my husband to read. With his Chronic Pancreatitis, sitting at the computer (except as required for work) is not an easy thing to do. He is progressing through your information even as I write. Thank you for posting your experience in such a concise, readable way. Please consider collecting your information into an ebook or pdf to print out for this kind of situation. I’m sure he’s not the only one out there. I read your home page to him to see if he was interested, and he said to print it all!

    His is an ongoing journey, four years since diagnosis. We knew the diet was not right and have been following SCD (Specific Carbohydrate Diet) for about 2 years. That helped tremendously. But comparing your recommendations with that of Elaine Gottschall, we see that the restrictions need to be in somewhat different areas. Since he just had an MRI, colonoscopy and endoscopy yesterday–with all the prep that entails–your work came in at just the right time.

    When you first posted in this blog last year, he was in the hospital for the fourth time, and it was a 10 day stay. The SCD intro diet got him back on his feet then. We’ll being following your recommendations now. What the hospital wanted to feed him was unbelievable. Our doctor intervened to allow me to bring in what he needed to eat. The nursing staff was interested; the dietitians were not.

    About the grapefruit juice. He wanted me to let you know that sometimes fentanyl is prescribed for pain management for chronic pain in pancreatitis. (He suffers every day and any AP flare sends him back to the hospital. We were told this is true, origin unknown, in about 15% of Chronic Pancreatitis cases.) Grapefruit juice and fentanyl patches are a deadly combination. If using fentanyl, grapefruit and grapefruit juice must NEVER be consumed. Just FYI.

    I didn’t see a subscribe button for your blog, but note that it is a choice when commenting. Please consider adding that to your sidebar!

    Thank you for your continuing efforts on behalf of all of us.

    1. Hi Janet – you’re welcome. I hope the info helps your husband. I know how rotten it is so I really he finds relief.

      It’s unfortunate that grapefruit (fruit, seed extract, juice) doesn’t play well with others because it protects the pancreas from acute pancreatitis. Check out reference #2 at the article end. I put the grapefruit warning on the page however i mention it from time to time and probably forget to do so each time.

      The good news is that he should still be able to take grape seed extract, curcumin and vit c with no problem unless he’s on blood thinners like warfarin, pradaxa or plavix. Both grape seed and curcumin have a tendency to thin the blood a bit so IF he’s on any of those meds he may want to ask his doc first. If he can take Ibuprofen or aspirin as well to help resolve his inflammation that’s a plus. Some people have issues with NSAIDS. I prefer ibuprofen to stop an AP attacks and in smaller doses with grape seed, c and curcumin resolve inflammation because narcotics just mask the pain and demerol didn’t do anything for mine. Anyway …

      Thank you again for the kind words and best wishes to your husband for better times. 🙂

  10. I am a 45 year old white lady who was diagnosed with CP with stones and calcification in early Jan 2014. I thank the Lord Jesus that I haven’t had pain since early March 2014. I am on a high protein low fat diet. I have been stumbling around looking for a cure for so long and came across your website and it has given me such inspiration and knowledge esp about the grape seed, your Faith as I am a re-born Christian and have been praying for a miracle, but now realise the miracle lies within me. My eating plan and supplements and my way of life as life is short and you must live it to the fullest. Thank you for your website and I wish everybody else there living with CP to never give up. God loves you. Take care. Heather from S.A.

    1. Hi Heather – Thanks for all you nice comments and kind words. I wish I could tell you there is a cure for pancreatitis but there isn’t. My personal opinion is that if one does everything right there is a good chance of a “remission” you might say. The chance to either relieve the pain and other symptoms, even live pain free for years (I’ve done that). However it does take extreme dedication to diet and supplements. And there is no guarantee it will work. There are beginning to be a fair number of people who are doing what I have done and still do that ARE experiencing good results. There are also some who have not realized the significant changes that I have. There have also been some who have been extremely damaged applied my regimen of diet and supplements, saw promising results and then for some reason back-peddled. So unfortunately my regimen or whatever you want to call it is NOT batting 100%. Just being truthful. But …

      If it helps just 30% of those who suffer now when what they have been told by others simply is NOT working then I think it’s well worth it. Heck, ONE in TEN would be worth it. But I think the numbers could become significantly better than what I just said as long as the adherence to both diet and supplements is rigidly followed. But in all reality I am simply guessing at numbers and possible outcomes. The ONLY thing I can be absolutely sure of is what I have experienced. But I am NOT cured. If I went to Carl Jr’s and had a doubly bacon bourbon burger with fries and a shake I know exactly what would happen and it wouldn’t be pretty. Good luck, God Bless you Heather 🙂

  11. Perhaps I missed it somewhere, so forgive me if I’m asking something that is already on your site. Did you ever discover the cause of your pancreatitis? So far, we have been unable to find the cause of mine. And while managing symptoms and healing damaged tissue is a priority, I guess I’m equally interested in figuring out what caused it all to begin with.

    1. Hi Tom – I started getting sick after being injured playing high school football. It was an abdominal injury that benched me for the rest of the season. I and the doc who finally diagnosed me thought that may have been the cause. Come to find out years later (2009) I am also a celiac. Celiac disease seems to be associated with pancreatitis so who knows which one actually may have been the key player.

      I THINK, and it’s only my opinion, that the actual cause is only relevant in certain cases where an underlying condition is KNOWN to be the culprit. I’m talking about an autoimmune disease such a Sjogren’s Syndrome, alcoholism where the patient has the genetic variant that causes alcoholic pancreatitis, a defect such as pancreas divisum or another condition like SOD (Sphincter of Oddi dysfunction) or Hyperlipidemia (high blood fat levels) where that underlying condition causes the pancreatitis and thereby needs to be addressed in order to find resolution. I can certainly understand your curiosity but unless there is a blaring cause that jumps out and slaps your doc in the face and says “hey dude! this is the problem!” chances of you finding out that cause, with 100% surety, is almost nill. Most docs have trouble diagnosing pancreatitis let alone diagnosing and nailing down the condition that may have caused it. So good luck with that! 🙂

  12. Dear Mr Health Guy – thank you so much for your prompt response. I concur completely with your reply. The eating plan that the Professor put me on is a bit difficult as I am hungry especially in the evenings. I have lost weight and now only weigh 47kg although was a healthy 50 kg’s. I eat oats and yoghurt for breakfast with my supplments and then for lunch maybe a plain tuna salad or provitas, apple (only certain fruit) to prevent sugar levels spiking,homemade soup and drink lots of water and rooibos and green tea. But later during the day I feel pangs of hunger. Dinner early with chicken breast with veggies. But later I feel hungry and am also craving sweet things that I have never craved before (am not diabetic). My eating plan am not allowed sweet things, nuts or crisps, creamy foods etc. Would please like your input as to how I am going to pick up weight. Am allowed beef and lean pork but would rather stick to YOUR eating plan to HEAL myself in order to avoid pain occuring. Thank you once again for your Wonderful Website and God Bless you for sharing it with others and being so selfless. Kind regards Heather Kruger from South Africa.

  13. dear MR health guy my son was diagnose with pancreatitis he is 21 years old college student with a bachelor degree I know he went under a lot of stress from college but he is almost done I am so proud of him . last month he was admit at hospital for 14 days left and went back 3 times during his stay they give him morphine for pain and no food .
    I am so upset at every doctor who treated him on his medical report they diagnose him as a 21 years college student that’s mean he party a lot and eat lots junk food which is not the case, we left the hospital with no guidance no information what to do or what to eat or how to manage his pain. I took him to 7 doctors most they said we don’t know what’s going on ,I did not leave any test from blood work to CT scan ultra sound MRA, x-ray ,endoscopy every test shows inflammation of the pancreas lipase and amylase 920 and 530 .

    as a mother I am going crazy I can’t sleep my blood pressure is very high my blood sugar is 50 it’s like I am sick not him because I don’t know what to do anymore

    My only hope is my faith in god and Jesus maybe he will listen to my prayers and taken this burden of his shoulder

    thank you and god bless

    1. Hi Rita – It must be difficult for a mom to watch her kid suffer. The good news is that IF he manages a correct diet and uses certain supplements he may heal up nice and fine. He may never be able to eat or drink like a “normal” human again but who knows? If I were him I’d adopt a proper diet for pancreatitis and start taking grape seed extract, vitamin C and curcumin. It is amazing what proper diet and highly anti-inflammatory supplements can do. I hope he heals. Good luck to him and you! 🙂

  14. Mr Miller. I would like to thank you for handing me the little bit of light I’ve needed. My family and coworkers have been super supportive, but that doesn’t really help ease the fear. In February I experienced some back pains (around kidney level) that I thought were just realted to known spinal issues, thinking back now however, I suspect they were early signs of the pancreatitis. At the end of April I was woken up with my first attack. On the pain scale I have now become accustomed to, I would label that first attack as maybe a 7. A few days later I went to the hospital with my second attack because now I was scared. They did an ultrasound, didn’t really tell me what the results were but sent me home with a scrip for famatodine (Pepcid). I opted not to fill that scrip because I had taken it before for regular indegestion type pains and didn’t see how it would help at all. 2 attacks later (this time a 9 with nausea to boot) I was back in the ER. This time they did another Ultra sound & added an MRI. This time I was told that I had galbladder sludge, and I was admitted. I”m not a heavy drinker and as I was already working on loosing weight, not a high fat diet eater either. Since then I’ve spent a lot of time in and out of the hospital (more in than out). At some point I was given a CT Scan, that showed not only was my pancreas effected, but that it was necrotic (though no infection). The CT showed that there was fluid collection that was actually larger than the original pancreas size. Another CT a week later showed it shrunk by about half (yay good start) and finally able to see at least portions of the actual organ. On May 17th, I was given an NJ tube, through my nose, all the way into my the duodenum, to allow for organ rest, but still give me nutrition. Even with the feeding tube Ive spent much time in and out of the hospital with recurring pain every couple of days. My most recen stay they restarted me on clear liquids (though I find that the italian orange ice they gave me was bad… no orange/lemon/lime for me too acidic). I’m just now on my way to full liquids, and I’m really nervous about what is safe and what isn’t. The dietician and doctors are more concerned with sustainable calories. I don’t find myself very hungry so it’s hard to get the calories up to an acceptable level so the feeding tube can be removed, though I have had it shut off for a couple of days now. In the beginning of July I am scheduled for my next CT scan, and hopefully from there a follow up appointment to have my gallbladder removed. In any event, I appreciate the information on your site and hope to use it on my own path to recovery. Thank you

    1. Hi Christina – you’re welcome for and to any of the info. It sounds like you have been through a lot, none of it fun. Did they say whether the fluid collection was an ascites or a pseudocyst? I hope things go well for you and that you eventually are able to heal up. Hang in there.

      1. They suspect Pseudocyst. I’ve made it nearly a week with only some small dips to the Norco bottle and I’m hopeful to use it less and less.

  15. hello i am currently in the “we don’t know what the problem is stage” i have been suffering for about 6 months now and getting worse. i have gotten no answers from these idiot GI docs. i have done multi blood tests ,stool tests ,ct scan ,an endoscopy and a colonoscopy. all showed nothing really bad or out of the ordinary. i have had to change docs as they really know nothing and give no ideas or really seem to care .i am some what at a loss .i was forced to start researching on my own my symptoms and problems and that is how i came across pancreatitis .i know u and any one posting on here is not a doc but these “doc’s” seem to be a dead end .i would like to know if you or anyone posting here has started out with problems like mine. first i will describe myself ,i am 28 years old thin,work out almost everyday,and eat pretty healthy,lots of fruits vegs. i never eat fast food or fried foods. i have lived a pretty healthy life don’t smoke ,dont ever use drugs ,and only drank 2x per month on ave. this all started in the begining of the year when i had diarrhea for about 6 weeks went to the doc and they fond nothing ,then i had my first attack pain in my left side followed by horrible pain in the upper stomach right in the soft spot below my sternum every time i ate. i was unable to eat much for over a week getting worse and worse so i went to the hospital (big waste of time). since then i have been getting attacks unable to eat, more and more often .as of now its been about 3-4 weeks strait and i have gotten worse and worse each day can barly keep a small non fat meal down.i am currently at my worst as of today. the only reason im not in the hospital is because i know they will do nothing to help me .to sum it up i feels like i have rocks in my upper stomach everytime i eat,pain below my left chest ,yellow floating foul smelling stool and pain in my left shoulder blade. i am currently eating as little as i can with a non fat diet and taking digestive enzymes to help.i would guess i clealy have a problem with my pancreas since that is what breaks food down . if these symptoms sound familiar please yet me know i know no one here is a doc but these idiot GI’s could not even locate the pancreas . after reading your blog you seem to know way way more about the gi system than these so called flunk out docs. thank u

    1. Hi Patrick – Damn! Sounds like you have been talking to the same idiots I did years ago but it isn’t possible cuz they have probably all retired or died hopefully. I found ONE good one out of 14. He most likely saved my ass simply by diagnosing me. Ok, let’s tackle your problem and remember you are right I can’t diagnose but I can tell you what I think. As far as I know that isn’t against the law, yet! 🙂

      Blood tests. I had blood tests too but the damn fools never tested my amylase or lipase in the ER. 7 TIMES in the ER and not one of those fools tested my enzyme levels. So my first question for you was did they test your amylase and lipase and if so do you know what the results were? My next question is WHEN did they test your enzyme levels? If it’s done at the wrong time it does almost as much good as tits on a snake. It takes about 4 hours into an acute attack for enzymes to rise. So if it is done too soon and done only once those tests are worthless. The enzymes will stay increased for 4 – 5 days but they will only be at PEAK levels during an attack after 4 – 6 hours of involvement and then for maybe 24 – 36 hours unless you have severe acute which may of course cause longer elevations. We can be reasonably sure that it isn’t or wasn’t severe acute with complications because you’d probably be dead now.

      Stools tests are worthless for diagnosing acute pancreatitis however, they do allow for diagnosis of pancreatic insufficiency which is normally caused by pancreatitis and is somewhat common in advanced chronic pancreatitis. So if they found nothing remarkable you probably don’t have severe or advanced chronic pancreatitis.

      CT scans are considered the “gold standard” in pancreatitis diagnosis. They are good for showing certain types of damage, fluid accumulation (ascites, pseudocysts), scarring, necrosis, dilated ducts, beading, calcification and more. There are a couple problems with CTs. One is that if they are done too soon, like blood enzyme tests, they may show nothing. Another is that doctors can be stupid. I have had people tell me their doctor said they don’t have pancreatitis even though the CT clearly showed some inflammation of the pancreas! What the hell do they think pancreatitis is anyway? I’ve only heard that a couple times but damn! that is nothing more than gross incompetence. CT scans, like every other scan or test, are only as good as the person interpreting the results.

      Endoscopy – are we talking ERCP, EUS or what? Both are pretty accurate. ERCP is actually dangerous and can cause acute pancreatitis. EUS is much safer.

      Colonoscopy is naturally not a test for diagnosing pancreatitis but along with endoscopy and CT does probably rule out colon cancer, crohn’s disease and ulcerative colitis for the most part.

      Yellowish or clay colored stools may signify the presence of bile, which could mean jaundice, gall bladder infection or stones. It could also mean liver involvement. It could also mean pancreatitis. The floating, foul smelling part, steatorrhea, may indicate malabsorption which could be due to a small intestinal problem such as celiac disease or a pancreas condition, pancreatitis or pancreatic cancer. Since there wasn’t any remarkable finding that pointed to Crohn’s or UC you may want to get tested for Celiac Disease. Classic symptoms of CD are diarrhea, nausea, vomiting, weight loss, steatorrhea, malabsorption, pain and various other signs. BUT celiac disease doesn’t explain the severe pain just under the sternum. I have diagnosed celiac disease. Nausea was more of a problem than diarrhea. In fact I rarely had diarrhea but my mother had horrible diarrhea (she too is a celiac).

      I have never had pain on the left side as far as I can recall. I’ve had some pain that went across my whole upper abdomen area but not severe pain. Just annoying pain. The severe pain was only with acute pancreatitis and dead center just millimeters below the rib cage. It definitely sounds like you could have pancreatitis. I would suggest you find a pancreas specialist if they have any in your area or at least talk to another Gastroenterologist to get another opinion. If you have more than one ER in your city you may try a different ER. That strategy didn’t help me in 1979 but it may work for you now because the ER docs in various communities seem to be recognizing pancreatitis more easily now. I’ve even had a few folks tell me they were diagnosed correctly the first time! So keep at it. You definitely need to find out what is wrong. Until then you and I are just guessing. Good luck Patrick. Let me know what happens.

  16. Dear Health Guy,
    Thanks a lot for such an informative site. Really appreciate your efforts.
    I’m pure veterinarian and searching for good digestive enzymes which are vegan and which are as effective as animal based enzymes. Do you have any recommendations.
    Thank you

    1. Hi Danny, I had to do some checking for you and this digestive enzyme product looks acceptable. I have never tried it so I do not know if it works but it seems to have enough protease, amylase and lipase to do the job with one or two caps at meal time.

  17. Thanks Health guy. I will check this product and will give feedback. Currently I’m using Garden of Life O-Zyme™ Ultra Ultimate Digestive Enzyme Blend . But this doesn’t seem to effective because I still get lose mushy stool. Are plant based enzyme equally good as animal based enzyme. My GI doctor mentioned to me OTC enzymes are not at all effective compared to prescribed enzymes like creon. Is he making valid statement ?

    Thank you.
    danny

    1. As far as I know over-the-counter animal based enzymes are just as good as prescription, even better. They are much cheaper, you can adjust the dosage to fit you (you can’t do this with a prescription unless your doc wants to), and unlike prescription drugs, over-the-counter (natural supplements) usually won’t kill you and have less side effects. The only thing about OTC formulas is they are usually a lot less potent so you may have to take a few more to compensate. But again, in most cases OTC supplements won’t kill you where as prescription drugs (just side effects, not counting abuse) kill aproxiamtely 100,000 Americans every year (something the docs and big pharma don’t want you to know). I don’t know about vegan or vegetarian enzymes. I have never used them.

  18. Health Guy, I just wanted to say thank you for your blog which I stumbled across yesterday. I have had CP (idiopathic) since 2007. I had “healed”/controlled it pretty well using diet and enzyme supplements, but in the past few years began to slack on the regimen. I had gone for such a long period of no attacks and stupidly assumed I was “fine”. Needless to say, I had a recurrence, but thankfully mild. I went back online to do more research and came to your blog. THANK YOU for the information about Grapeseed Extract- I went and bought some yesterday, and am giving it a try, and am back on the no fat diet and enzyme supplements.
    Your blog is so encouraging. Also funny- fun to read, not dry and clinical like some other sites dedicated to health. I’m so glad I came across it. Thank you.

    1. You’re welcome Britt. Hope the info helps. Backsliding into old habits or “cheating” on the diet doesn’t work for many of us. It may take a bit of time to “catch up” to you but it will eventually get you. Stay on the diet, take the supplements and stay well.The other way just isn’t worth it. 🙂

  19. Health Guy, I am not sure if I have pancreatitis, I think I do, because i sometimes have burning pain accross my back, where my bra strap is. I also have a throbbing pain under my left rib cage, and soarness in my back directly behind where the pain is under my rib on my left side. I do feel nausea at times, have heartburn often and wake up at consistantly at night(3-5AM) with a strange aching in my stomach. i have a history of drinking, not everyday, but have had my share of drinks on the weekends and on vacation, mostly beer and wine. Thies symptoms all started about a year ago. I have gone to GI doctor and family doctor, they say I have acid reflux and put me on an acid blocker, which made my stomach hurt worse, so I took myself off of it. Since I don’t know what I have, I am going to try your regiman and see if my symptoms resolve. What do you think of my symptoms? Sound like pancreatitiis to you? T
    hanks for your site, I am just don’t know which way to turn and have to try something… Lorie

    1. Hi Lori, sorry to hear you don’t feel well. In your own words “i have a history of drinking, not everyday, but have had my share of drinks on the weekends and on vacation, mostly beer and wine.” Now that doesn’t mean you are a candidate for alcoholic pancreatitis but here’s the interesting thing about alcohol and how it affect the pancreas. You don’t NEED to be an alcoholic. One can simply be a “binge” drinker” and get shitfaced on weekends and do damage via the alcohol. IF said person has a certain gene variant that predisposes them to alcoholic pancreatitis that increases the risk big time. My post “Who Gets Alcoholic Pancreatitis?” will explain more about the DNA gene variant. That said …

      What tests did the GI doc perform? Did he/she order enzyme blood levels, do an ultrasound or have any other more advanced radiological tests performed? If so what were the results? Even those tests are not always conclusive because …

      Alcoholic pancreatitis can present differently than classically. It can present like early chronic pancreatitis at first which is often misdiagnosed as acid reflux and various other maladies simply because the doctor seeing the patient didn’t listen and so did not investigate properly in order to make a correct diagnosis. I am not saying it sounds like you have a “cut and dried” case of alcoholic pancreatitis which is presenting as chronic. I can NOT diagnose people. I don’t have the skills, availability of diagnostic tests and it’s illegal. What I can do is suggest you find another doctor who might listen more closely and do some investigation that may not have been done. Of course if you get really sick an ER visit would be appropriate.

      Here is an indepth article (quite indepth and medical) that will give you a decent understanding of alcoholic pancreatits.

      Good luck Lori 🙂

      1. Thanks for your advice. My family doctor ordered blood work and actually initially thought it might be pancreatitis based on my symptoms, but then all blood work came back normal. She also order a CT Scan which came back that my pancreas was normal, she did say my liver was slightly enlarged but she said it was nothing that concerned her. She ordered the acid blockers for the heart burn and told me to see a GI specialist. When I went to GI doctor, he took all my history.This was a few months ago, and at that time I was not having spells of nausea. He also did a endoscopy and said everything was normal, and said I had acid reflux, and changed my acid blocker prescription. I do have some disc issues in my back, and am seeing a chriopractor regularly, and this does give me some relief in the back pain. What tests should I insist on having to get to the bottom of this, when I go back to the GI doctor or should I just try another doctor? Thanks, Health Guy, you are giving me hope.

        1. When you went in to see your family doctor and she thought it might be pancreatitis were you actually sick at that time? Do you know what “blood work” she did? IF you weren’t sick at the time or within the last week prior even if she checked enzyme levels they may have been normal. They only stay raised for about a week or less. The pancreas looking normal on CT is a good thing but not 100% conclusive. There are many who have been diagnosed with acute pancreatitis, sent home after 3 – 5 days in the hospital, continue to have problems yet their CT scans are clean. At least you know there isn’t pancreas damage that shows and it wasn’t currently inflamed. You may have some other condition and maybe the GI is right. Anyway …

          IF you get sick again go to a good ER and get checked out. Don’t mention anything about seeing your family doc or the GI. Just let them do their thing and see what they think. Hopefully you begin feeling better or at least go to the ER the next time you are ill to see what they find. Good luck Lori 🙂

          1. Hi Health Guy,

            Went back to GI, because, still have this pain in my left side and now also moved to the center of abdomen. They did the blood work for the enzymes, normal. Again, GI still thinks I don’t have pancreatitis. Can you tell me what mild pancreas pain feels like? I have never actually been sick enough to go to ER… but I do have pain that radiates to the back. Just trying to understand…

          2. Hey Lori sorry to hear you are still looking for answers. Lori I went back and re-read some of your comments so I could refresh my memory. It is hard to explain the pain of mild, moderate or severe acute pancreatitis and chronic pancreatitis pain can be mild, moderate or severe. Acute pancreatitis, speaking only for myself, is a pain I never want to experience again. There are commercials on TV that crack me up. A fireman that has shingles and says it’s like having a bag of burning charcoal on your neck. Maybe he has had a bag of burning charcoal on his neck so that he knows how the two feel and is able to make an accurate comparison. Or the lady with diabetic neuropothy that says it’s like being struck by a lightening bolt. I’m sure she’s been struck by lightening and can make an accuarate comparison but unfortunately I have never experienced anything like the pain of acute pancreatitis so I can not make an accurate comparison. Let me just say it is extreme. Listen to what Dr. David Whitcomb says about pancreatitis pain. That is as good as I can do because I’ve never been knifed or gut shot so using what I might think would be a good comparison may be way off base. The pain and symptoms I experienced because of the CP (chronic pancreatitis) weren’t near as bad yet for others they can be mighty severe. Then there are those RARE birds that have pancreatitis, even severe acute, and experience only severe nausea and vomiting, but, like I said that is rare.

            Your GI should know that pancreatitis, both alcoholic and autoimmune, can and do present in some people like chronic pancreatitis. Autoimmune is often misdiagnosed as pancreatic cancer because it often presents just like pancreas cancer. So if your GI has checked your IgG4 levels, ruled out autoimmune pancreatitis, ruled out alcoholic pancreatitis and other forms/types then you may not have it and hey who wants it anyway? You may have leaky gut syndrome, gluten sensitivity, chron’s or UC. And maybe none of those either. I wish I could be of more help. Good luck to you 🙂

  20. Hi Health guy,
    My wife was diagnosed with pancreatitus, As other has mentioned, she was also discharged without any mentioning of what can or not be eaten and no dietitian visited her. Thank you for the information you are giving us. She is not big in vegies, she eat her fish and chicken and is getting better. My question can she eat Ostrich and Venison?
    Thank you
    Dawid

    1. Hi Dawid, glad to hear your wife is improving. Venison is red meat. Even though it is wild, grass fed and has far less fat content it might not work. I quit hunting deer in 1980 and haven’t had any venison since so I can’t tell you from personal experience how it might work out. I don’t know a thing about ostrich, heck i didn’t know they were something people ate. What does ostrich taste like, ostrich right? lol 🙂

  21. Help!!! My twelve year old grandson hospitalized with very high amylase and lipase numbers. IV fluids, then clear liquid diet, as numbers came down chicken sandwich introduced, numbers rising again. Scheduled for a pc line tomorrow. Doctor unaware of ibuprofen but would look into it. So much more- any recommend for San Francisco? No obstruction or mass on MRI. Screening for hereditary pancreatitis underway.

    1. Hi Susan sorry to hear about your grandson. I don’t know WHY docs begin feeding people coming out of an acute attack sandwiches, salmon and other stuff but they do and it usually causes people to get sick again. The FIRST few meals should be JUICE, nothing but pure organic vegetable juice. If that isn’t available V8 juice works fine. White UNSWEETENED grapefruit juice protects and helps heal the pancreas. Make sure your grandson is not on any medication that would interact with grapefruit juice (that can be deadly in some instances). Go to the store and buy him some grape seed extract and curcumin. PURE grape seed extract and pure curcumin. Both are non-toxic. To much curcumin can cause nausea and vomiting so I wouldn’t take more than 1500 mgs per day. I’d take 800 – 1000 mgs of grape seed extract per day in like 4 doses. 800 mgs of Ibuprofen should get him back on track. But make sure you get an ok from his doc. I’m NOT a doc. I can’t give medical advice. In fact, just think of me a s your friendly neighborhood quack lol. I hope your grandson gets well fast. 🙂

  22. A year ago, my wife of 52 was diagnosed with chronic pancreatitis and pancreatic divisum which appears to have caused the pancreatitis. Since then she had a sphincterotomy to open up her pancreatic ducts thinking that enzymes were not making their way out of the pancreas. Today she is still in pain and takes enzymes but has no appetite. Latest doctor recommends removal of the pancreas and injecting pancreatic cells into the liver so that they can make insulin. I just came across your blog and wanted to know if you think that the nutrition recommendations you make for the acute form of pancreatitis will work with the chronic form.

    1. Hi Eduardo. Sure the diet and supplements will work on, help chronic pancreatitis. Diet and supplements can even help heal chronic pancreatitis damage and put the condition/disease into remission however … with pancreas divisum it may not be an easy or long-term healing because the divisum is a defect that as far as I know can’t be fixed. IF your wife qualifies for the TP/AIT procedure it may certainly be an option to consider however I urge you to do some very thorough research. Don’t just listen to the rah rah from those who have just had it done (the net is now full of people who are overjoyed with their outcome), especially if they have had the procedure done in the last 2 or three years. Try to find those who had it done 5 or more years ago and try to talk with them and find out if they’d do it again.

  23. Hi this gina..im having abdominal discomfort for almost 4 mos now,when i went to my gp he prescribed me for acid reflux meds and antibiotic because hes telling me maybe its ulcer..but then after a week i went for follow up because still the pAin is still there but not like before.he ordered a blood test which is my lipase is high only 5points to the normal range.,and he told me maybe its pancreatitis,but then he ordered abdominal ultrasound then result is normal.,thats why he refer me to gi doctor but til now im waiting for the call,but still having pain usually at night,i feel burning in my chest and stomach radiating to my back.and by the way i also had flouroscopy which is normal to..then when i went to er they repeat my ultrasound which is normAl to..and my blood test went normal too.and im having swollen abdomen,but when i wake up in the morning my stomach is flat again..and every morning i do always poop which is floating always and large amount of poop.is it im having chronic pancreatitis?thank you for your site.im starting to use grapeseed,curxumin and super enzyme i bought it in the health store.

    1. Hi Gina – first since you haven’t been diagnosed you should probably stop taking the supplements. Doctors have a hard enough time figuring out what is wrong when you are feeling like crap. IF you start to get better because of supplements and diet you may never find out what is wrong. Just a suggestion, you have to do what you think is best but you can always start back on the the grape seed, curcumin and enzymes after you have a firm diagnosis. I’d get diagnosed first because that way you know what you’re dealing with.

  24. By the way since july i notice i have a bumped in my left middle quadrant stomach its like a guava,but then when they repeat my ultrasound everything went normal..thats why worried cos till now my stomach is swollen and tender during the day but in the morning it is flat but the bump in my left stomach area is still there..

    1. Hopefully the lump is still there when you see the doctor. That should get his/her attention. I know you are worried. It sucks to be ill and not know what is wrong. Keep after your doc to find the problem.

      1. hello everyone

        ABOUT THE lump

        MY 21 years old son had pancreatitis for almost a year he suffered a lot from constipation to nausea ,inflammation of the pancreas later on inflammation of the liver because of all the medication he was on , he spent more than 28 days in total at the hospital plus not forgetting every week going at the emergency room we did run so many tests from blood work to CT scan MRI ultra sound endoscopy colonoscopy u name it and all the result came back normal only lipase and amylase are high we end up with so much medical bills plus 16 docteur with no answer at the end they told me we can’t help him anymore he will be like that all his life .
        i did not give up i knew something else wasn’t normal he had lump on his stomach I called a doctor outside the country he said just take him and do a special test for gallbladder i did
        he had no gallstone no nothing but the gallbladder not working properly thats mean very slow

        since last november after taking the decision to remove the gallbladder my son did not feel any PAIN no lump nothing, it was all because of the gallbladder but i am so angry at every docteur why it took them too long to figure IT out , so lyn go do the gallbladder test and make sure a specialist look at the result because 2 docteurs told me everything is normal only one said no he needs a surgery

        1. RT – Thanks for your comment. It is good info. Ya I know how much doctors suck. Most are worthless. They just think they are great so when you find one that is great hold on to him or her because they are RARE finds. Hope your son is doing well still. 🙂

        2. Hello RT just want to ask you regarding the test of your son..what specific test for the gallbladder?coz til now my lump is on the left side of the abdomen,is it your son had lump in the left abdomen too before?thank you

  25. Thanks for your suggestion health guy.,very much appreciated..by the way im having a poop everymorning which is large amount and floating but its not oily,did u suffer that too before.?and though im not losing my appetite still my stomach is thin,im losing weight.thats why im worried bec about this im thinking maybe my gp is correct when his telling me that maybe its pancreatitis.:(

    1. Hi Ginalyn, hey I apologize. I approved this comment and didn’t respond? I’m an airhead! I have to admit I don’t recall what the entire conversation was regarding so I went back and rereadd what I could find. The lump on the left side is still interesting to me. The rest of your symptoms sound to me like possible gall bladder disease or an intestinal disease such as Crohn’s, ulcerative colitis or celiac disease. Have you been tested for any of those?

  26. I have just begun reading your site after having suffered from episodes of acute pancreatitis over the past 6 years, the last of which landed me in hospital just over a week ago. It was not pretty. I have only recently made the connection that my condition is alcohol related and this was confirmed by the medics. I accept that it is also most likely to be diet related too. Pancreatitis also runs in the family as my father had the same condition. I am fortunate enough not to have chronic pancreatitis, but continuing as I have been doing, it would only be a matter of time. Thank you sincerely for sharing your experiences, understandings and knowledge with sufferers of this painful condition. I have eliminated alcohol completely and will be using your wisdom to continue to make changes to my diet. Well done for beating pancreatitis!

  27. Hi Health Guy – I sincerely appreciate your blog.

    I’ve had what I believe to be mild pancreatitis symptoms for about 2 weeks. An occasional NSAID for discomfort – but no change in lifestyle. I’ve adopted your recommendations as of this week and do notice an improvement. I’m scheduled for a physical in a week and hopefully the chemistry will shed some light. Since my symptoms are mild – I’m assuming there’s no need to push that physical ahead for any reason? I don’t want to promote damage, but based on other testimonials, there’s really nothing the docs can do except prescribe pain meds. I’m not inclined to pay 3K for a CT scan, only to be told what you’ve already posted.

    p.s. – it’s amazing what you’ll eat (and this is great) when you’re really hungry!

    Thanks again.

    1. Hi John, I’m glad you like my blog and find the info helpful BUT and this is a big BUT … this info is not intended to help diagnose a condition, disease (pancreatitis) and should not be used as a tool to do so. I highly suggest you make sure to keep that appointment for your physical, give your attending physcian complete info regarding your symptoms (times, dates, severity etc) and let him/her form their own diagnosis or do whatever investigative work (tests) necessary to enable a firm diagnosis that makes sense. I appreciate your concern regarding cost of certain tests but consider this: You could have pancreatitis but you could also have something else, gallstones, an inflamed gallbladder, kidney stones, Sphincter of Oddi dysfunction or a myriad of other conditions that can cause similar symptoms including some form of biliary cancer. It is important to know what the problem actually is instead of self treating on a guess basis. In fact, if it were me, I’d do nothing different than I normally do until I met with my doctor and as soon as he came in I’d have a complete list, on paper, of symptoms, dates (when they first occurred (what happened), what might have brought them on, when the next occurrence happened, etc. and go over thm with him immediately. The more precise info you can give the better he/she may be able to put 2+2 together. I know from experience that most doctors have difficulty diagnosing things that aren’t totally obvious so if he/she tells you there is nothing wrong after a thorough exam either tell them they are wrong and they need to relook or ask them why you have the symptoms or find another doctor. If you hear the old “gastritis” or “GERD” diagnosis which may be something given to make them look less like an idiot you should probably seek better medical care. Just my two cent opinion. Good luck, I hope you find out what’s really wrong because then you have a way to plan an attack to win. 🙂

  28. Diagnosed about a month ago with chronic pancreatitis. Scan showed innumerable cysts and calcifications. Never have had any pain, not a drinker or smoker. Dr’s can’t figure it out. Anyway thanks for your sites, very helpful. Goal is to reverse damage if possible. Are you taking prescription enzymes with food or over the counter?

    1. Hi Smedwards, sorry to here you have CP. Never had pain? It happens. Rare though. Have they checked for an AID (autoimmune disease) or a genetic factor? Non drinker yet if you can never remember a sudden onset of nasty symptoms, due to some cause, it may be that testing for autoimmune pancreatitis might be in order since it usually presents as CP first. It’s often misdaignosed as pancreatic cancer because it looks similar on CT and the symptoms are also similar in early stages of PC. It may also be that you have the genetic gene variation for alcoholic pancreatitis (which often presents as CP first) and, even though you are a non drinker may have eaten enough foods containing alcohol (french cooking, italian cooking, even some cakes etc) that may have been the trigger. Just a thought. I have no science to back that food theory up with. If you can dig for and find a cause you might be able to “reverse it” with more success.

      I use OTC (over-the-counter) enzymes. I’ve never used prescription enzymes like creon.

      1. Thanks- have been tested for autoimmune diseases, so far nothing except Sjorgen’s came back positive, have no symptoms of that either. Am redoing some blood in a month since liver enzymes very slightly high – looking for autoimmune hepatitis. No genetic tests yet, need to see if insurance will cover.

        Reason I asked about the enzymes is that I am on Creon and they have completely resolved my digestive issues but am concerned that even with the enzymes I may be putting stress on pancreas. Dr. originally said 50-75 grams of fat per day but since I responded to the enzymes told me that I could up the fat to 100 or so grams per day. I haven’t done that, am trying to stay under 50 except once a week when I eat out. Your thoughts on increasing the fat consumption would be appreciated. Also have malabsorption issues – Vit D and K so am supplementing those as well as Calcium, not sure if that is the reason for saying it is ok to increase fat, to try to get my body to absorb nutrients. Do the supplemental enzymes cause the pancreas to stop trying to produce digestive enzymes – I am very concerned about the likelihood of further deterioration of pancreas (although based on the CT and MRI there is not much left) including the potential for diabetes and pancreatic cancer.

        1. Sjorgen’s Syndrome is notorious for causing pancreatitis. Look it up, do research. 50 grms of fat is WAAAAAAAAAAAY to much fat; less than 25 grams PER DAY should be your target. 5 grams or less per meal. This is especially important if you want those cysts to heal. But, I’m not a doctor, so I really can’t advise people. I wouldn’t eat 50 – 75 grams of fat per day for anything. I don’t care what a doctor said lol. If I did I’d be sick. You are sick so I rest my case. I hope things work out for you because I know it sucks to be sick. 🙂

          Sjögren’s syndrome with chronic pancreatitis, sclerosing cholangitis, and pulmonary infiltrations.

        2. My son age 26 now has chronic pancreatictis due to a cystic fibrosis mutation he carries. He was diagnosed at age 17. To be diagnosed with CF, he had elevated sweat tests and confirmed with genetic testing. Will this diet help for him also?

          1. Yes and no. The low fat diet will help his pancreas but from what I understand from reading CF causes the pancreas to become fiberous (this causes pancreatitis) and CF requires a high fat diet. Both those situations usually make toast of a CF patients pancreas at an early age. IF his doctor has not told him he has to follow a high fat diet to keep his CF from progressing the low fat diet will probably (most likely) help his pancreas especially when combined with the three supplements grape seed extract, vit c and curcumin. It probably all depends on how advanced his CF is and how damaged his pancreas is due to CF. This is an area that I’m really NOT to knowledgable in. He should probably ask his CF doctor some real pointed questions in order to find out what may be best for him. CF is NOT my forte’.

  29. Hi Healthguy,
    I am a pretty healthy 48 year old, nonsmoking, social drinker, perhaps reckless eater in the past, but did indulge infrequently in some recreational nitrates use ( poppers?) ie. Aphrodisiac inhalants. My only vice. Last time I indulged was in Jan (coincidence?) and then shortly later I became ill. Regardless of cause, I feel stupid! It may not be the cause, but it gets you worried. The main thing is solving the present problem right? This is like confession, haven’t told all the docs this part but they should know everything right? I’m truthfully embarrassed about this.
    It has been since beginning of Feb of this year that I started to exhibit symptoms of lightheaded ness and some gut discomfort, my doc pulled bloodwork that revealed elevated lipase of 66 ( just a whisper higher than normal) and was sent for an ultrasound for the pancreatitis at that time, pretty astute MD, but by middle of the month, I had full blown loss of appetite and feelings of nausea, couldn’t even look at food. One 14 hour ER visit later mid Feb, I was told no gallstones and sent home with acid reflux meds; that night felt so different, I thought I was dying, mild pain but tightness and burning feeling. And was then off work for a week. It is now beginning of April and have had two more blood tests showing slightly elevated lipase levels 101 and 96. I know…people and docs included tell me that these levels are nothing. I am eating solids now but after reading your blog, now realize the need to modify diet pronto; the docs don’t tell you anything about diet. Despite resolution of that sickening gut feeling somewhat, I still have mild tension in my mid abdomen slightly left of centre, almost a trembling feeling. Although very mild, it has now disrupted my sleep, waking me up almost every two hours not to mention all the anxiety and panic I have been feeling. I dread the night time now. I have no appetite have dropped 10+ lbs and it has strained the family tremendously. Actually have an MD visit to check latest lipase level this AM. Still lots of gurgling in my gut at night and constipation (malabsorption?) but the tightness in the sternum area has settled down a lot this week. Another astute doc advised resting my pancreas by liquid supplementation like Ensure which helped. Glad to read of your juicing and supplementation routines, I will try the white grapefruit juice and grape seed, curcumin and Vit C stat. Ultrasound, barium fluoroscopy and CT tests were all normal over the last 6-8 weeks. Now awaiting GI specialist consult, but it is taking what seems like an eternity; it may be a month’s wait! Thank God that I never had severe pain, in fact the ER nurse wanted to give me morphine that night which I refused stating that I wasn’t in that much pain. My life has been turned upside down within two months, and it has been a very emotional journey. Your blog is the first bright light in many weeks for me. You have a fan. I will say a prayer for all fellow sufferers. Hope to chat more with you. Thanks. Ken

    1. Hi Ken, sorry to hear you haven’t been well. Don’t feel embarrassed, ashamed, or stupid. But you may want to stop “popping” just incase your feelings of coincidence are correct. You may also want to stop drinking, even socially, just incase you do have a mild case of pancreatitis. Elevated lipase, even small elevations, should always suggest the possibility of pancreas inflammation and prudently be considered as a harbinger of things that could come. “Lipase testing is also occasionally used in the diagnosis and follow-up of cystic fibrosis, celiac disease, and Crohn’s disease.” More here

      You might also want to get tested for celiac disease and other forms of “IBS” such as crohn’s. I thought of celiac disease right off simply because you have nausea (my main symptom of CD), intestinal “gurgling” which I also had. DO NOT alter your diet to a “gluten free” scenario until you get tested for celiac disease. IF you do the test will not come back with correct results. But get tested, if for no other reason than to rule out a possibility that your symptoms suggest. I also had reflux, canker sores etc. Celiac disease doesn’t always present with diarrhea yet most doctors simply ignore the possibility if it isn’t present. My mother is also a celiac and even though she mentioned continuous, even dibiltating diarrhea (having to be close to a bathroom all the time) her doctor didn’t catch on. He let her suffer for over 20 years! If my doctor hadn’t listened to me on one visit where I told him I had some weird symptoms while eating pancreas safe foods and had the forethought to test me we’d have never solved my mother’s condition. I knew immediately what my mother’s problem was as soon as I was diagnosed. CD is a genetically prediposed autoimmune disease. Anyway … have your doctor test you. On a good note, celiac disease isn’t near as painful, not even close, as is pancreatitis and usually won’t kill you (like pancreatitis can) unless you happen to also be one of the few who also get small bowel cancer due to long-term untreated CD. So if you do have CD a gluten free diet normally resolves symptoms in a short time. God bless you and keep us informed 🙂

  30. Hi Paul, I had a few questions…first what does it mean if your lipase level is somewhat low…is that a form of pancreatitis? Are you better off health wise if your lipase level is in the low range or the high range? Also your thoughts on Creon which my doctor has me taking but I do not take it in the amounts he wanted me to take it in? He wanted me to take 3 pills(24.000 each pill) 3 x’s a day…I usually do 2 pills with food once or twice a day. Also I found out on the EUS that my doctor did he actually did not biopsy my pancreas(he couldn’t get to it, probably because I had gastric bypass surgery), so he biopsied lymph nodes that were around the pancreas that looked inflamed. The results came back negative. So how does my doctor give me the diagnosis of pancreatitus? What determines that diagnosis???
    I know the pain that I have had in the past mimiced that of pancreatitus but what would exactly would determine the diagnosis of pancreatitis? I have never had any yellowing of the eyes or skin…I know at times I’ve had some of the worst pain I have ever experienced in my life, worse than kidney stones, but how did he make that diagnosis? I recently was in the hospital about 3 weeks ago which what I thought was a major pancreatic episode. When they did a CT it showed that my messandery had twisted and it was thought as well that I had another internal hernia due to my gastric bypass. I’ve had 2 internal hernias, one that was fixed in 2010 and another in March of 2014. But my Dr..-Dr Blackstone again based on the CT thought it was another internal hernia….that day I went to the ER I tried mega dosss of grape seed extract, vitamin C. Cucurmin, grapefruit seed extract. Nothing worked! Of course I just read your blog this week about utilizing Ibprofen which didn’t even come into mind I was in that much pain. Anyway, when they put me out that Sarurday evening my doctor did not find any twisting of the messandery, just some scar tissue, and no internal hernia, what she did find was a mass the size of a walnut that was on the wall of my small intestines. She called it a divertici that somehow got inflamed, infected, or whatever it was! It was nasty looking. She cut it out and then did a staple line in the small intestine to fix it so it will heal back to normal. Everyone(family) is thinking that was the cause of my pain? Not sure? Staying optimistic! The pain that Saturday morning which I fought for 3 hours because I did not want to go the ER was unbearable. I couldn’t lay down, sit down, or even turn the TV on. Since the surgery I have been basically pain free but it still looms that this was not the end all be all problem. The pain I had radiated all the way to my upper back from my stomach. I still have doubts! I am still not sure! I’m hoping and praying that this was the cause of my pain!(My doc also said that this type of diverticuli gone wrong would not show up on an MRI or CT because it’s in the fat cells of your small intestine…the only way to find it is with a scope). Procedure was done laparoscopically and was out of the hospital a day and a half later. On a side note the dr who performed the surgery is not the se dr who performed the EUS on my pancreas. Dr Blackstone is a Bariotric Surgeon and is one of the top doctors on the country! This women has also removed by spleen back in 2010 becauseI’m get a strep infection. She has also performed 2 internal hernia surgeries. And has removed my Gaul bladder and appendix on the 29th of October. This past surgery which she removed the diverticuli gone wrong was the last surgery she did on me. She did not do my original Gastic Bypass in 1998 nor did she do my gastric bypass revision that I had in 2007….I apologize for writing such a long email but now you know my history. The only thing that I am being retested on by a Hemotologist in July is portal vein thrombosis. Which the hemotologist was not overly concerned about at this point! When I wss under Dr Blackstone looked at my liver and she said it looked fine and all my liver enzyme blood tests were in the normal range!

    Thank you for listening to me ramble ion about my health Issues. I also managed to squeeze in last year on May 1st a left hip replacement. Which has really not given me any problems at all and has turned out to be really helpful in getting me back to my cardio of 1 hour a day which I just started back last week! I need the cardio it helps me mentally deal with stress during the day! I hope to one day that I can eat without fear of something happening! I really do! My weight at my heaviest was 365 lbs and now Inam 165 lbs. Believe me o do not want to lose any more weight. The cardio has helped me put weight back on because I walk on a 15 incline at 4 miles an hour an hold on to the top of the treadmill! This is a great way to build muscle in your legs and bring your weight back up! It’s basiclaly similar
    To mountain climbing! Thanks again for listening and everything that you do for all the folks that reach put to you..you are truly a special individual! All the best, Neal
    Let me know if you eat bagels..we make gf ones as well..I would be delighted to ship you out some from me to you!

    1. Hi Neal – I’m only going to address your question about diagnosing pancreatitis because I have very little knowledge about your other issues. I am guessing you have been diagnosed with pancreatitis, there was obvious damage seen by the EUS or CT scan and because most doctors usually don’t prescribe creon for grins and giggles so …

      How would they know you have pancreatitis? IF after a battery of proper tests, especially blood (amylase, lipase, wbc, etc), ultrasound, EUS, CT, glucose tolerance, MRI and various other testing if necessary and matching all the criteria to their scoring systems you qualify as a lucky new member into the pancreatitis hall of fame there is most likely little chance of a misdiagnosis. Misdiagnosis usually happens when an ER physcian or some other doctor you take your body to doesn’t recognize your condition and passes off some lame diagnosis such as gastritis or reflux because they have no clue what may be wrong with you so, the fact that you had a doctor who recognized the possibility and pursued appropriate testing is a good thing. IF by chance the mass in your intestinal wall was causing the pain and other symptoms associated with the diagnosis of pancreatitis that would be interesting indeed. Anything is possible and intestinal problems (celiac disease, crohn’s disease, small bowel cancer) can elevate lipase but not dramatically enough to warrant an acute pancreatitis diagnosis, at least not to my limited knowledge. With that said some forms of pancreatitis such as autoimmune pancreatitis and alcoholic pancreatitis actually present with chronic pancreatitis symptoms instead of an acute attack which makes diagnosis for most doctors even more difficult. So IMHO a firm diagnosis of pancreatitis is far less likely to be incorrect than a diagonisis of gastritis, reflux, or chicken pox when one actually is suffering from pancreatitis.

      I’m glad to hear that testing didn’t show need for major concern about the portal vein thrombosis issue. I know that had been a worry for you. Congrats on your weight loss, exercising is helpful, keep at it and here is a site with a list of some of the testing done to diagnose pancreatitis. Take care and God bless you 🙂

  31. Thank you so much for your inspiring and informative reply Paul. Today was a bad day, tried to work but very straining. I may need to take a few weeks off until I can sort this all out and hopefully get in to a specialist. Just asking, but doesn’t even a slightIy elevated lipase already infer pancreatitis? My pain is more of a mild ache referring to my back at its worst, it’s a sickening gnawing, trembling feeling. What is your actual definition of it from all your self research and experience; it’s splitting hairs? Oh btw, tried curcumin, grape seed and Vit C for the first time last night and had steamed halibut and cauliflower, fresh diced fruit ( apples, banana and papaya for dessert. No oil at all. Best feeling night that I had in ages but today is a bit of a setback. Feel crappy level 2 discomfort despite supplements today. Your thoughts on enzyme preparation Creon and Ensure meal replacement? Will chat again soon. Thanks again. Ken

    1. You’re welcome Ken. It is interesting that with the supplements and a usually pancreas safe meal you had a good night (8th), yet you are feeling poorly again the next day (9th). Creon is powerful stuff. Much more powerful than OTC (over-the-counter) enzyme formulas. Some people with a lot of damage from either acute or chronic pancreatitis need it. I’m blessed and don’t need to use that powerful of a formulation. Hopefully I’ll stay blessed. The pain radiating to the back is also interesting. It does sound like a mild case of pancreas inflammation but it is hard to tell because as I pointed out lipase can be somewhat elevated with other conditions, very few but some. The fact that your lipase at first was 66, then 101 and 96 I also find interesting but those levels may be seen in chronic pancreatitis patients. Some people present with chronic pancreatitis symptoms first. This is most common in those who have the gene variant for alcoholic pancreatitis or have autoimmune pancreatitis.

      I understand your concern though, I do. I urge you to get tested for celiac disease (blood test), like I said, if it comes back negative that is one possibility ruled out. You were told you don’t have any gallstones so they must have done an ultrasound of your gallbladder? Your discomfort is in about the same area as mine when an acute attack comes on but mine is never a discomfort level of 2. It’s more like a 12. Makes me cringe to think about it.

      I’m not a doc but for some reason I’m thinking 4 possibilities that should be looked into, tested for and ruled out or in.

      1) Celiac Disease
      2) Some other form of IBS such as Crohn’s or UC (Ulcerative Colitis) however your symptoms don’t really match well
      3) Sphincter of Oddi dysfunction which can cause the upper belly pain and also trigger acute pancreatitis. This condition is somewhat difficult to diagnose and the invasive procedures can be very risky.
      4) Pancreatitis, including autoimmune pancreatitis

      About ensure. Most ensure contains oil. That is not good if you do have an inflamed pancreas. There is one type of ensure, I believe it is called “clear” that does not contain oil and should be ok. However it does contain milk solids which may cause some people problems.

  32. Thanks again for all you do! Just look forward so much to reading all of your replys! Thank you again for helping so many people! Please always tahr care of yourself because there are not enough good people like
    You in this world! They just don’t make me like that anymore! All the best , Neal

  33. Hi Healthy Guy!

    I have had severe abdominal pain for over a year now. (I went to China over a year ago and fell mysteriously ill, went to the ER, was prescribed anti-parasitic meds and antibiotics and eventually got mostly better) Fast forward 5 months to a 6 week trip to Costa Rica, where I got even worse and upon return to the states, I had multiple trips to the ER, where nothing was resolved. (They thought I had an ulcer) I finally saw a GI doctor, who was of no use, then some naturopathic doctors, who helped but couldn’t find the root cause. I saw another GI doctor, who repeated exams and brushed me off, prescribing me anti anxiety and anti depressants. Yesterday I saw an internal medicine doctor who said it sounds like it may be my pancreas.

    I have a lot of the symptoms of chronic pancreatitis, but I know that abdominal pain is hard to diagnose. What exams did you have done that finally revealed pancreatitis? How do you think you developed it? I am 29 and eat pretty healthy/organic. I’ve had 2 upper endoscopies, multiple ultrasounds, a HIDA scan to check my gallbladder, a colonscopy. Thanks to this new doctor, I’m supposed to be getting a CT scan next week and hopefully an endoscopic ultrasound asap. I’ve been in such severe daily pain and it’s hard to stay positive. I feel like I’m slowly becoming depressed.

    My symptoms are:

    pain right in the middle of my stomach where my ribs part
    when pain starts, it often radiates to my intestines
    a swollen/distended belly
    acid reflux
    chronic fatigue
    occasional nausea
    anxiety from not having an answer
    trouble sleeping

    please let me know what you think! I know you aren’t a doctor, but you have more knowledge about this than most doctors.

    I currently take:
    digestive enzymes with each meal
    sometimes chewable DGL (licorice)
    magnesium/calcium/zinc
    just started Vit C again
    doctor just gave me some pancreatic enzymes to see if it helps

    Thank you,
    Elizabeth

    1. Hi Elizabeth 🙂 sorry to hear you aren’t feeling well and worse, not sure why. You Internal Med doc sounds like he/she has it together and is on the right track. The EUS (endoscopic ultrasound) and CT should shed light on the problem and definitely help get you diagnosed. Pain in the middle, right at the rib cage is where I used to get my pain during acute attacks. The chronic, long-term pain wasn’t anything like the acute and sometimes went across my whole abdomen – it was mostly just tender. Really tender. Any pressure in the pancreas area caused discomfort (nausea and/or pain). If you haven’t read my story here it is. I think it answers your questions regarding tests and such but I had upper GI’s (3 or 4), one lower GI (that was fun), then the doc who diagnosed me did a lot of blood work while I was in an attack, then an endo, CT, glucose tolerance. The tests are much better now than they were then. I hope they find out what is wrong. At least then you’ll know and be better able to formulate a plan of attack.

  34. Hi Paul, I suffered a severe case of pancreatitis in July that I’ve been told by my GI Dr caused 30% necrosis (dead/damaged tissue) in center portion of pancreas. I just found your name and sites today and what you are saying gives me great hope that I may be able to fully recover.

    On my own I have totally given up alcohol and been on a very low fat diet – maybe 50 grams per day. For the past 2 months I’ve been feeling much better. GI Dr continues ERCP’s to improve damaged ducts and after each one I feel better and better. I’ve had 4 ERCP’s with at least 2 more to go.

    Can I ask you if you know how severe your attack was (CT scan?)? Your 30 year longevity gives me great hope. I’m 49 years old and do not want to die in 10 years or less as most of what I read seems to indicate. I also believe God has helped me to recover. I was never very religious before my attack but after my 1st ERCP I swear I felt I was in heaven before I woke up. From that point forward my pain was greatly reduced and I’ve felt better each day since.

    Knowing how severe your damage was will help me to tie science to religion and validate what I’m feeling already & that I may have more then 10 years left on the earth!

    1. Hi Chris – I have to tell ya I can NOT say how much damage my original CT (1979) showed. I was to stupid to ask. I was so thrilled (ya that’s kinda dumb too right?) to finally have a diagnosis that made sense that even while Dr. Langdon was telling me, in a roud-about way, that I might only have another 10 years left that all I remember doing was smiling and bobbing my head up and down like an idiot because I was happy to finally know I wasn’t insane. So, I am NO help to you or anyone else in that regard. As a further example of “my dummer than a bag of barber hair” mentality I didn’t even ask to see what Dr. Langdon’s records said when I had them shipped to the VA doc I go to know so that I could get my nausea meds. He doubted me when we first met. Imagine that … BUT after he reviewed my records I immediatly got my meds so … obviously something was there lol. I should probably ask to read them lol. And …

      Praise God you are feeling better! Sounds like you had some really rough times. I hope you continue to heal. Good luck and God Bless ya! 🙂

    1. Hi Josh – I’ve had that but ONLY with real high fat trigger foods like bacon grease (before I got smart) or when I was dumb enough to eat when I wasn’t feeling well anyway (before I got smart). Like I said bacon grease did me in within minutes. And I’m not talking just a little pain. That stuff throws me into full blown AP within minutes, or used to. I quit eating it and anything else full of fat.

  35. Hi Paul,

    My 10 years son is suffering Pancrease Divisum last 5 years. stent was placed 5 times via lower papilla but he is till suffering Pancrease Divisum with Cronic Pancreatitis with severe pain. Surprisingly stent is automatically removed from the body. Pain also come after stent placement. He is feeling pain two to three month interval. He is taking Creon and Antoxid.

    What is your advice about my son ?

    Debabrata Biswas
    (India)

    1. Debabrata Biswas I’m sorry to hear about your son. I wish I could help but other than adhering to a low fat diet and using the supplements I am at a loss. I was trying to find a surgical procedure that I was sure I had read about that cured the condition but I have not been able to locate it. Stenting and cutting the duct doesn’t seem to do much good, especially long-term. You already know this to be true. I’ll keep looking. I was sure I had read something about a procedure. I could have been mistaken but one thing you might do is make sure he sees a real knowledgable pancreas doctor. I wish I could be more help. I’m sorry.

  36. Hello Health Guy
    I have read nearly everything on your sites after being diagnosed with CP have two small calcification one in the neck and one in the middle of pancreas, also psuedocyst in duodenum. We live in France and although my OH speaks fluent French, ( mine is rubbish lol ) he struggles a bit with the medical side of things, poor love has been through the mill with me over the last few years. Had to have hysterectomy 2 and bit years ago and maybe a coincidence this was when the problems with my pancreas started. Hindsight being the wonder full thing it is I was drinking far to much wine I guess I just didn’t want to admit it.
    First it started with very bad acid and indigestion and prescribed Pantoprazole which seemed to help, then things got worse and started getting really bad pains just in the middle of chest where the ribs separate, was then given Doliprane for the pain. When that didn’t help was then given Monocrixo LP this was like magic no pain, brilliant could eat, sleep and was able to go back work.
    Anyway after a while I did think it’s fine being out of pain, but wouldn’t it be better not to have any without taking painkillers , so after reading about you I have ordered some grape seed extract, bought some grapefruit juice and Hubby is going to try and get some Ibuprofen today.
    On Thursday night I took my last Monocrixo, was on 200mg just one at night then it was reduced to 150 mg. OMG I never realized these damn things had Tramadol in them and were addictive, was just so happy to be out of pain, it’s now Tuesday and have had awful withdrawal symptoms, it’s got better except not being able to sleep I know I’m nearly there and defo don’t want to start taking them again, I have had no pain from Pancreas and have touched wood, crossed fingers you name it I’ve done it.
    I have changed my diet a lot eating plenty of fruit and veg oh forgot to say haven’t touched any booze since August and very surprised at myself for not being that bothered about not having it.I guess if we can’t get get Ibuprofen over here we can get friends to bring it over from UK.
    I can’t stop thinking hysterectomy started this pile of crap, although I know the booze hadn’t helped, before we moved here we ran a pub more drinking, I shouldn’t really be shocked that the devil finally caught up, should I !!! Also why do I find it embarrassing to say I have CP ? I have already had a comment ” I didn’t know you drank THAT much” compared to a lot of wine swigging Brits over here I wasn’t, but I do know I never gave my body a break even if some nights it was just one glass of wine, alcohol is alcohol even if watered down.
    Anyway just wanted to share my story with someone who understands and to say I think your amazing
    Sue

  37. Hi! I’ve come acrossed your blog numerous times. I have a 10 yo that has acute recurring pancreatitis due to genetic mutation. No fat restrictions in diet. No doc has given us the go ahead with turmeric and grape seed extract. Have any idea if these are OK for children to take? No indication on vitamin bottles either.

    1. Hi Nancy – I certainly can’t prescribe nor give medical advice but I can find NOTHING scientific (not just a guess) that would indicate toxicity of either grape seed extract or curcumin for adults or children. Both can cause unwanted side effects in some individuals due to the pruging of toxins. They are BOTH extremely strong antioxidants and when taken in too large of a dose(s), to quickly can cause a toxin overload (the toxins can’t be removed fast enough) on the liver and kidneys. This inturn causes some folks nausea etc. That is why I have suggested in most cases to start out SLOW, with SMALL doses and work up until the desired results are achieved. Curcumin can cause stomach issues (nausea and vomiting) when too much is used.

      IF it were me who had a 10 yo with recurring acute pancreatitis (due to any condition, cause or reason), and it isn’t me, it’s you, so you have to make your own choices – I’d start my 10 year old off with 100 mgs of grape seed extract from now foods once per day for a week or two. Now foods 100 mg VCaps also contain vitamin C (this is good). If no problems were noticed I’d increase to 100 mgs 2x daily. THAT should be enough grape seed extract coupled with a LOW fat diet (absent of ALL trigger foods) to see some good results in a 10 yo. IF my son/daughter still had recurrent AP or pancreatitis symptoms I’d increase the grape seed extract to 3x daily. Etc, etc, etc. I’d probably avoid curcumin and simply lace his/her food with turmeric instead. Now …

      IF the underlying genetic condition can’t be resolved, like in pancreas divisum for example, it may take even more grape seed extract to protect the pancreas. If it’s high blood fat levels that are the problem those need to be addressed. If it’s hereditary pancreatitis diet and supplements should be extremely helpful. Again, what I’d do and what you should do may be totally different. You have to weigh all data and make your own choices for your 10 yo. I wish you the best 🙂

  38. Thank you Paul. Your advice is a blessing. This is more information than the docs give. My son’s episodes happen more often in the winter months and seem to be triggered by viral infections. Antioxidants, supplements, and constant prayer are on our agenda. I am so glad you are blogging about your experience thank you! Nancy

  39. Paul, I can’t thank you enough. I followed every one of your suggestions and I am healing. I still do not have a diagnosis from a doctor. I’ll probably be healed before that. But I wanted to share with your readers the thing that I believe pushed me over the top. I had an Ultrasound and I found out where I hurt. So I began apply DMSO to those areas. And I haven’t had any nausea in almost a week. I am so grateful for your site. Wishing you a long lasting healthy life.

    1. Xtrology – AWESOME! It is good to hear you are healing. I’m even more intrigued by your usage of DMSO. I have read articles that suggest it is highly anti-inflammatory but I have never really researched it nor have I tried it. I do know that it helps the skin absorb certain things (like snake venom if one wants to get rid of someone lol) but I never thought about it resolving pancreas inflammation. THANK YOU for the cool testimony on DMSO. I’ll have to look at it more closely. Stay well! 🙂

  40. I just want to thank you for your site. I’m here due to my dog having chronic pancreatitis. Why am I not taking my vet’s advice? Because all he wanted to do was sell me a high priced canned dog food and did not want to discuss with me making my own dog food, supplements or anything else. After searching the web for make your own dog food for pancreatic diets, there were still questions that were not answered, so I turned to human diets. Your site has answered many questions so I think I’ll on the right track to feeding my 100 pound dog many times a day. (thank heavens I’m retired!)

    1. 2 dogal – Since I know that one of the causes of canine pancreatitis is too much fat in their diet (too much at one time) a low fat diet should work wonders. Many pet owners feed their dogs Thanksgiving, Christmas dinner scraps and the dog gets sick from all the high fat food. Since this is a fact it would stand to reason that to much fat during recovery could be just as bad so a low fat diet should help dogs just as much as a low fat diet helps humans. Making your own low fat dog food is probably the best idea so good for you! I hope your buddy recovers nicely and has no more problems.

  41. After hours of searching for natural healing on this subject, I found your blog. My mother is in the middle of a horrible attack, its now been a little over a week for her. She was sent home from the hospital and not even a stomach doctor is helping her. They are full of it, and has her fully in belief that there is nothing that can be done to heal her pain, and her pancreas. However I knew that it just had to be some way she could and went looking, and ended up here on your blog. I have read your posts on the supplements along with the grapefruit juice that you took to help you to heal. The thing is my mother is a type 2 diabetic, is it still okay for her to take those supplements? She eats fruit cups and applesauce, is that really helping her and should she continue with it or stop?? I also read on one of your posts something about v8 juice, however I don’t remember what posts it was. What kind of v8 juice would work best? Your help is truly needed.

    1. Hi – What diabetes meds is your mom taking? Many such as Januvia, Victoza, Trulicity and others CAUSE acute pancreatitis. IF she is one one of those ask her doc to switch to something else. Ok … the supplements are fine and should help her a lot. Fruit cups and applesauce should be fine in moderation (could spike her blood sugar). V8 juice – the low sodium V8 juice (veggie) juice not the Infusion.

  42. Hi Paul,
    I’ve been having AP bouts for the past 4 years. I had 1 major bout that hospitalized me for 5 days, which that time my pain only lasted 2 days. Nothing last for more than a day or two. I went to the Dr. and he is puzzled since I went for an examination of my pancreas with a camera through my upper GI (the name of the procedure escapes me) and there was no sign of damage and no sign of autoimmune disease. I do have some inflammation, but that’s it. They also checked my gull bladder and there is no sign of gull stones. The doctor told me that sometimes a medical exam does not detect very small stones (sand like), so now they want to remove my gull bladder. My question to you is, what is your opionion about gull bladder removal? I will start on the regime that you recommend for the inflation, I’m ordering my supplements online asap. Thank you for posting this valuable information.

    1. Hi Virtual – Sounds like you have a bad 4 years. Was the endoscopy procedure with the camera called Endoscopy UltraSound or EUS? That’s a pretty good test if it was. That and CT seem to be the best with MRI right in there as well. They all are good tests, some just make it easier to see certain things. BUT nothing is perfect or 100%. And so sometimes sludge or sand isn’t detected one day yet is seen on another. It’s always possible that the gallbladder emptied and everything got flushed prior to testing. The next time sand, sludge or stones may show. You may ask for another test, maybe just basic ultrasound before having surgery. Sometimes basic ultrasound sees stones, sand and sludge better. IF they see the stuff you might consider having your GB removed to get rid of the risk of more and even worse AP. As always that is totally your call. There is always risk when surgery is done. But gallstones are the #1 cause of AP.

      By the way you are welcome and thank you as well. I hope everything works out for you. Let me know how things go with diet and supplements. Get well and Good luck to you 🙂

  43. I am commenting about having the gall bladder taken out. My husband has had 27 pancreatic attacks over the past 3 years. These attacks started when we moved to a new home and the majority of our family became very ill (Type 1 diabetes, pancreatitis, Bell’s Palsy, asthma etc.). We found that the home had mycotoxins (mold poisons) in it and all of our bodies were also positive for these poisons. I tried reasonsing with the medical community that his gall bladder was not the problem, but rather he had been poisoned with mycotoxins. If alcohol (which is a poison) could cause pancreatitis then why not mycotoxins? Mycotoxins take down your immune system and cause inflammation in the body. To keep the peace with the medical community and all of the social pressure (school, work, friends, family) we had his gall bladder removed, but it has just made things worse. The medical community pretty much told us that they would not help us any more if we did not have his gall bladder removed. All 9 of our family has since gotten out of the toxic environment, changed our diet, and been to see an environmental MD in California and we are doing much better.

    1. Hi Jill – sorry to hear y’all have had tough times. I feel for your husband. 27 pancreatic attacks in 3 years, that sounds like me. I never counted but it was a lot. 1979 to 1982 were not good times. It sounds like your whole family had some rough dealings. I’m glad y’all are doing better.

  44. One more quick comment. There is a medical study on pubmed.gov about how mycotoxins caused pancreatitis in a pig. I tried to show this to the medical community and as usual most of them roll their eyes and think I am nuts. I think it is something to consider, especially for those who have no other explanations. I am in the process of writing a book about all of our experiences and all of the knowledge I have gained over the past 3 years. Paul, thanks for sharing your. Yours was the most helpful website we came across and still refer to, to help keep the pancreatitis at bay.

    1. Jill it wouldn’t surprise me to find out that mycotoxins could cause organs to do weird things. Like you pointed out they are toxins. Scorpion stings, snake bite etc cause pancreatitis in some people. If the toxins destroy tissue or cause inflammation within the pancreas it only seems natural that AP might certainly follow. You are most welcome to the info, hope it has been helpful. Good luck with your book and y’all stay well. 🙂

  45. Docs look at me all crazy when I tell them my son’s recurrent acute pancreatitis is every time he has viral infection! There’s just not one particular thing with this awful awful pancreatitis. Frowny face!

  46. Hi. I thought I had pancreatitis for a couple of years but they finally found some cysts in my pancreas and they were growing rapidly so I had to have the Whipple. Believe me, I tried not to after reading your comments on it. But they did find a small stage one cancer so it’s good I got it done. I’m 6 weeks post surgery and forcing myself to eat to gain back weight lost. My ribs and back are burning and I know it’s from the foods I’ve been told were ok to eat. All low fat, but still I’m in pain. I know you can’t answer medical questions but do you know or have heard if it’s ok to take the grape seed extract post Whipple? It really helped me when I had pain before the surgery. Thanks for all you do.

    1. Hi Jayne – Wow, sounds like you have NOT been having a good time. I certainly didn’t expect to hear that you had to have a whipple done. I have NOT read or heard about grape seed extract after a whipple but I can’t even think of a remote reason why grape seed extract would NOT be beneficial. It helps relieve pain, nausea, eliminates inflammation and is known to kill cancer cells in some cancers. IF it were me I’d be taking hefty doses of grape seed, C and curcumin and keep track of results (diary). Keep us posted. I wish you a speedy recovery!

  47. Dear Paul I appreciate this article so thank you 🙂 also I work for an addiction program and have a woman here that would greatly benefit from this information however she does not have computer access, I am unable to print any of this information to give to her. Is there any way you could send me an email with the list of food she can and can not eat?

  48. I just got another episode of pancreatic liapase nd amalyse is high pain is there
    last time got admitte
    d but now this treating myslf at home!3 days i was just on liquids clear that too
    pain subsided now have to go get trsts again & see the progress.. please guide me that can i eat any fruit vegetable or even any juice
    is it safe to eat wheat and pulses

    1. Hi Tam – sorry to hear you are not well. If it were me I’d just drink veggie juice for a few days, then maybe try some solid foods such as veggies, fruit, rice, etc. NO FAT (oil, meats etc). Wheat and pulses are fine.

      1. Just noticed that you say white grapefruit juice-is there a difference between red and white? In my area I can’t find pure white grapefruit juice, but I can find and have been drinking, Ruby red grapefruit juice.

  49. Dear Paul, thank you again for this site. I mentioned last post that I had to get the Whipple even though I knew it was rough (mildly put). I’ve lost 20 pounds that I couldn’t afford to lose as I can’t eat much. They took out half my pancreas but I still have the chronic pancreatitis issues, this was not a cure, just to remove cysts. I had an acute attack the other night but I really can’t afford to fast due to my low weight. Will my pancreas heal if I just eat vegetables, fruits and no fats? Is fasting a must to heal?

    1. Hi Jayne – It sounds like you are NOT having a fun time. 🙁

      Fasting, resting the pancreas is really important. If it’s sick and inflamed, and yours must be, even safe foods can be the straw that breaks the camel’s back. You can always try juice, veggies, fruits etc and see how you tolerate foods with zero fat. I really hope you start feeling better.

  50. Hi Paul, I was reading about enzymes with serrapeptas could actually break down some of the scar tissue. I have scar tissue in my pancreas. Is there a brand you recommend? What about MSM or Vitalzme? Is it worth trying to get rid of some of it or is that just not possible? All this information gets confusing. I bought the grapeseed, vitamin c and a robotic to start. I already take magnesium and a mulitvitamin. I do not take a enzyme but thought I probably should- would it help slow the progression or actually help get rid of some of the scar tissue? I have no pain at all and no symptoms, but somehow I have chronic pancreatitis. Thank you, Lisa

    1. Hi Lisa – Serrapeptase is a proteolytic (protein destroying) enzyme from bacteria native to the digestive system of silkworms. It is the enzyme responsible for dissolving a silkworm’s cocoon. Serrapeptase has been used for several things one is to clean out artery plaque because it eats up the fibrin, another is against inflammation due to its anti-inflammatory properties. Whether it will dissolve scar tissue or not I am not aware. IF you wish to try it beware most formulas are very expensive. They blend small amounts of different enzymes with Serrapeptase (propriatary formulas) and charge outrageous prices. It would be MUCH more cost effective to buy quality pancreatic enzymes and Serrapeptase seperately. You’d also be able to read the label and know how much of each enzyme you are actually getting. Here is a Serrapeptase product with only two ingredients. A little calcium, a lot of Serrapeptase and about 65% – 80% less expensive! Read the product reviews. It rates high. If you try it let me know how it works. 🙂

  51. Hello.
    I was reading about Pancreatitis because I just had my third episode of acute pancreatitis, and I’m just healing from it and I saw in this website, you can die from it. That pretty scary to think about. I was hopping if there is more to learn about acute pancreatitis.

    1. Hi Brittany – Yes you can die from pancreatitis. Severe acute pancreatitis with infected necrosis and/or organ failure is not a good thing. Mild acute rarely causes death. You can feel like you may die but it’s rare. There is a lot you can learn about acute pancreatitis. There is an abundant amount of info online, most is basic stuff but if you dig you can find all kinds of stuff. Just don’t read anything – go for actual medical sites and/or scholar type articles if you really want to learn. There can be all kinds of complications, some rae, some not so rare. I enjoy reading that kind of stuff but most people find it boring and it can also be somewhat scary. Since you have had 3 acute pancreatitis attacks you should use caution when it comes to diet. Alcohol should be stricken from your diet, forever and if you don’t already know you should find out WHY you have had 3 attacks. It is important to find out what is causing the recurrent attacks.

  52. -Pain in left side near rib for 1.5 years.
    -CT scan in 2/2015 was normal. Told I prob had gastritis, but had no indigestion or burning. Just point pain.
    -Pain gradually worsened and radiated to lower back and even shoulder blade.
    -Got GI referral in 3/2016. Put me on Famotidine. No change.
    -Mentioned persistent prob to GP at last checkup, and he kind of dismissed as muscular.
    -Mom had same pains in 4/2016, and we laughed that we’d try to get a diagnosis together. Two weeks ago, she was diagnosed w pancreatic cancer. Not laughing anymore.
    -Over the past month have had another CT scan, HIDA scan, EUS, bloodwork, upper GI. Waiting for GI results. All normal except slightly elevated bilirubin and amylase levels and stomach inflammation. Again diagnosed w gastritis, but my side doesn’t hurt when I DON’T eat . . . just when I do, plus a bit of chronic pain. But no real burning. Seems to hurt more in the morning when bowels are starting to move. (sorry for the gross detail.) And after eating. Doc changed from Famotidine to Omeprazole.
    -Friend suggested digestive enzymes, which I take and which have helped.
    -I’m pretty convinced I have CP. Have started your diet. Will be meeting w new GP on Sat and requesting an out-of-town referral to a Pancreas Center (not sure which).

    A few questions:
    -Any thoughts on these symptoms?
    -Do you know anything about Omeprazole and CP? Helpful? Harmful?
    -Can you recommend a brand and dosage for OTC digestive enzymes?
    -How many daily carbs do you recommend for a pancreatic diet?
    -What about sugars?
    -Do you have any recommendations for Pancreatic Centers, docs, or hospitals in the Northeast (PA, NY)?
    -I’m struggling w the grapefruit juice and vit C recommendation because of the gastritis diagnosis (in case it’s right). These two substances are supposed to aggravate gastritis but help CP. Thoughts?

    Thanks very much for your blog.

    T

    1. T – Thanks for visiting. I’m sorry to hear about your mom and of course your health issues as well. Since pancreatic cancer runs in families (not trying to alarm you) and you said your symptoms seem to mimic or be very similar to your mom’s you should make sure you keep a close eye on your health. You have had an EUS which is pretty good at seeing visible pancreatic cancer. The tumor markers CA 19-9 and carcinoembryonic antigen (CEA) are the ones most closely tied to pancreatic cancer. IgG4 levels also elevate in pancreatic cancer. Again since your mom has PC you may also want to ask about genetic testing. IF it were me I’d ask for those to be checked as well.

      1) “Any thoughts on these symptoms?”
      Not really other than already mentioned.

      2) “Do you know anything about Omeprazole and CP? Helpful? Harmful?”
      Omeprazole is a PPI (proton pump inhibitor) used to treat GERD. PPIs have been suspected to cause acute pancreatitis. Whether they are useful or not for pancreatitis patients I don’t know for sure.

      3) “Can you recommend a brand and dosage for OTC digestive enzymes?”
      I use Super Enzymes by Now Foods

      4) “How many daily carbs do you recommend for a pancreatic diet?”
      As many as you want. Carbs aren’t the problem. Simple carbs turn to sugar quickly so I usually eat a lot more complex carbs.

      5) “What about sugars?”
      Sugars aren’t a concern either EXCEPT in your mom’s case and maybe yours because sugar (especially refined sugar) feeds cancer. Otto Warburg (nobel prize winner) explained this fact years ago.

      6) “Do you have any recommendations for Pancreatic Centers, docs, or hospitals in the Northeast (PA, NY)?”
      No. I’m sorry but I am extremely limited in my knowledge of good pancreas centers.

      7) “I’m struggling w the grapefruit juice and vit C recommendation because of the gastritis diagnosis (in case it’s right). These two substances are supposed to aggravate gastritis but help CP. Thoughts?”
      I understand your concern. Gastritis is NOT typically a long-term condition. So how long have you had this supposed gastritis? IF you do have gastritis due to some weird deal that lasts longer than a couple days I have an idea that may be helpful. Go to the store and buy a bottle of Mylanta. IF Mylanta takes your symptoms away on one or several doses you may actually have gastritis or GERD. Give it a few days of dosing and see what happens. IF Mylanta does little or nothing I’d doubt you have gastritis or GERD.

  53. A few more questions . . .
    -Thoughts on nonfat Greek yogurt? High in protein, no fat, and often low in sugar. I love the stuff but not if it’s going to harm my pancreas.
    -Can you actually provide a recommended nutritional overview for a pancreatic diet–as in how many grams of carbs, proteins, sugars, sodium, and fats? I know fat limit is 20 grams and that the body needs 44 grams of protein. But what about the other stuff when you have pancreas probs?
    -Do you anything about inositol? It was recommended for OCD/anxiety, but I also found an article that suggests that it could also help the pancreas handle fat. I currently take 800mg of inositol and choline daily.

    1. T – Here are my answers:

      1) “Thoughts on nonfat Greek yogurt?”
      IF Greek yogurt doesn’t cause symptoms eat it. FAT and alcohol are the two BIG enemies for those of us who have pamcreatitis.

      2) “Can you actually provide a recommended nutritional overview for a pancreatic diet–as in how many grams of carbs, proteins, sugars, sodium, and fats?”
      I’ve never considered doing a complete overview because it isn’t necessary. Again FAT and alcohol are the ONLY two substances that you need to avoid. NO alcohol and you already have knowledge of what your fat intake should be.

      3) “Do you anything about inositol?”
      I have to admit I am lacking knowledge in regards to Inositol and Choline. I only know the basics and nothing in regards to the pancreas.

  54. One last question (sorry) . . .
    -I saw your page re supplements and a little bit about coenzyme Q10. Do you advise taking this supplement because it’s a major antioxidant and anti-inflammatory? If not, would you explain why?

    1. CoQ10 is found in every cell of the body, especially the heart. The body actually produces it. I can’t see any reason not to take it if you desire to do so but it isn’t my first choice for pancreas healing. Grape seed extract, curcumin and vitamin C are the three work horses for healing the pancreas and keeping the symptoms of pancreatitis at bay.

    1. I wouldn’t worry to much about that Mayo Clinic article in regards to vitamin C. I read it and if I remember correctly there are no “references” to back up the warnings. I should probably do a post on vitamin C and why it is so good to use it in conjunction with grape seed extract and curcumin. Linus Pauling (Nobel Prize in Chemestry) said that everyone should take a good dose of vitamin C daily. I’ll believe Pauling over a white coat any day. Pauling was brilliant. He took 10,000 mgs of vitamin C per day and lived to be 94.

  55. Hi, I have the same dilemma as you had all these years. If you could email me some recommended supplements, I would appreciate it. I thank you in advance.

  56. Hi paul,

    Your success story is very inspiring for me . I m also a victom of CP since 2012, honestly took me 1 yr to understand the illness bt it was to late as it was already turned into chronic, since then m following your block and thoroughly followed your diet plan ,however dint used the supplements you suggested but still survived 4 years with couple of acute attacks in 4 years with 2 or 3 days of hospitalization , Got the last attack on 14 june 2016 with a recovery in 7 days and now I hv added grape seed extract and vitamin c in my routine , hope it give more power and fighting spirit to me..

    All that being said want to tell you that i also love to work out and runs 4 km every day with 50 or more push ups, so do you think its fine or as other says that it can aggrevate pancreas inflammation???

    1. Hi Mark – Sorry to hear you’ve not been real well. I had to do both diet and supplements. One without the other didn’t work as well as both in combination. If you aren’t on prescription meds that prohibit grapefruit juice I’d add that as well. Grapefruit juice protects the pancreas and I believe that it was the factor that stopped my acute attacks at first. In answer to your question in some people exercise can irritate an already inflamed pancreas. During my three bad years sometimes even driving in the car made me nauseous. But after I began to heal I was able to again work out. Stay strong, hang in there. Do everything you can to avoid another acute attack and heal.

  57. Hi Paul,

    I manage the condition quite well whilst strictly following your guidelines. However, I am guaranteed an attack or increase in symptoms at the time of my monthly cycle. Are you aware of any birth control methods that can help. I have read that estrogen pills can cause an acute attack so that’s out. I understand you may not be very versed in this particular circumstance given your male but just thought I would ask anyway as i’m desperate.

    Thanks,

    Carla

    1. Hi Carla – I’m glad to hear you are able to manage your CP but I’m sorry about the menstrual cycle issue. You guessed right I have no clue BUT what I have started an investigation because just from a few minutes of searching I have found that you, Carla, are not the only woman experiencing issues during your cycle. In fact it seems to be quite common. So I’ll be searching for the WHY and then the HOW to resolve it. I’ll write a post when I have answers. Until then, I’m sorry but right now I’m worthless to you in this regard. I’m guessing it has something to do with the increased hormone production during a couple portions of the female cycle. I’ll see what I can find out.

  58. Hi,
    I was a told that my chronic pancreatitis would lead to diabetes. Is that true? What blood tests should I do to keep check of how my pancreas are doing? I feel ultra sound is not very accurate.

    1. Hi Shweta – Thanks for visiting. Yes, uncontrolled chronic pancreatitis can and does often lead to diabetes. It can also lead to calcification (usually seen most often in hereditary and alcoholic pancreatitis). YOU can do a lot to prevent that from happening simply by adopting lifestyle changes, following a proper diet and taking certain supplements that seem to control inflammation and CP. At least they do for me and others now as well.

      I have found the best test is the “how do you feel” test. When inflammation is no longer present, people feel better. Some even feel almost normal, so much so they cheat and end up back at square one or worse (I’m a prime example lol). But good tests are CT, EUS, MRCP. So …

      IF you have actually been diagnosed with CP the first thing you need to understand is that there is no cure. If you begin to feel normal that doesn’t mean anything except you feel better and life is good again as long as you continue doing what is necessary to stay that way. That means, instead of being stupid like me, you do NOT go off your diet or quit taking the supplements. I did that, I paid and the price was to high. If you have any questions at any time feel free to ask. If I know the answer I’ll tell you. If I don’t I’ll tell you that too and then find it if it’s to be found. 🙂

      1. Thank you so much for the response. I started having my pancreatic attacks since I was 12 but only got diagnosed when I was 17 and had a very severe attack. And the first thing the doctors told me was that I would get diabetes by the time I hit 30, which was very depressing.
        Im 26 now, and by controlling my diet my attacks have become far apart and less painful ( which I’m not sure if it’s a good thing, because lessening of pain over time indicates pancreatic damage, according to the doctors).
        I’m very happy to know that I can do something about this, and thanks to you I now know exactly what. I,m going to do everything to prevent diabetes and further attacks.

        Thanks Health Guy.

        1. You’re welcome Shweta. Yep pain lessening over time can indicate your pancreas is burning out but that usually happens to those who do NOT learn how to control it with diet. If you have already been watching your diet you may be ok.

    1. Hi Kathy – typo ain’t a big deal with me. I can read between the lines MOST times lol. Hey you bring up a valid point/question. I’m not a doctor and that site you linked to is a doctor site so it is difficult to argue a case when facing some dude with an M.D. after his/her name because – they should know right? But the fact is they often don’t know and what’s worse not knowing they “wing it.” If he’d have backed up some of his statements with proof I’d have been more inclined to sit back and say HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM. But here’s the deal …

      I invested time researching drug induced pancreatitis. Now, I didn’t spend years, or even months but I did invest time and I just checked again. The WORST article I have found or should I say the most condemning article in the case of Ibuprofen is this one. Scroll down to the section on drugs and click the link for the drug list. The list is somewhat ambiguous. It simply says NSAIDS. Ironically it never mentions opiates! And even though that list was suppose to be done according to class I can not seem to see any class (1,2,3 etc) at all. On the other hand …

      I do have this ONE case study that implicates an Ibuprofen OVERDOSE as a “possible” cause of the guys pancreatitis. There was no re-challenge so nobody is even sure that the OVERDOSE cause the acute pancreatitis however I will concede that an overdose of Ibuprofen could cause acute pancreatitis. But who normally ODs on Ibuprofen? 3200 mgs is the daily max adult 24 hour dose. THAT is a ton of Ibuprofen. That is FOUR (4) 800mg doses in 24 hours. I’m talking 25% of that to stop an acute attack for me. I’ve never had to do even two doses in a 24 hour period except one time and that was with aspirin (1300 mg doses). It did the trick but I’d think twice about doing it again. Now re-read the first paragraph where you’ll see and I quote “There have been no prior definite cases reported of ibuprofen-induced pancreatitis.” THAT is probably the exact reason I can’t find any!

      Here is a study that shows a “half-baked” list of class 1 and class 11 drugs. Drugs that are KNOWN to cause acute pancreatitis. I said “half baked” because it lists only a few drugs. But notice opiates are class 1. Class 1 is the most notable offenders. The class 111’s are not listed because they are drugs supposedly associated with but not proven by re-challenge or enough cases to draw a definiteve conclusion.

      Anyway, take what I say with a grain of salt because like I said I am not an M.D. or a PhD. I’m just a guy. I hope your husband gets better soon. 🙂

      1. I trust you more than some article by a doc who probably has no experience with acute pancreatic attacks. Hubby finds aspirin works better, but doesn’t like to take it often. Seems soda crackers help when he first feels pain returning, so he trying that for now. Gotta get food into him, 15 lbs to regain, yet get rid of inflammation. You will find posts all over your site from me. I keep coming up with questions after reading whatever article I just finished.

        Thank you for your time and effort in sharing your knowledge. He was sent home with no instructions at all. No diet info, no suggestion of a pillow wedge (OK, we should have figured that out on our own, but panic shuts down your brain), no pain treatment advice, be it ibuprofen or aspirin, no nothing.

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  60. I LOVE YOU PAUL 🙂 Okay, here I go…….diverticulitis/celiac/pancreatitis/and let’s not forget systemic Candida! Can’t handle any grains, their trigger foods. I, stupidly went on an eating binge while visiting N.Y…DUMB….I am spiritual, I prayed and hence there You Were 🙂 I, purchased GSE….ALPA LIPOIC ACID/BILBERRY/REVERSATOL/THIAMINE
    TART CHERRY JUICE/TUMERIC/GINGER
    FOOD BASED MULTI VITAMIN. POWDERED GREENS, NO ENERGY YET TO JUICE. SOMETIMES ASPIRIN NITELY.
    IS IT OKAY TO TAKE ORGANIC CODS LIVER OIL ONCE I’M FEELING BETTER?….ALSO PAUL, IS COCONUT OIL OK?
    ,I’M YOUR BIGGEST FAN, YOUR IN MY DAILY JOURNEY AND PRAYERS
    SHALOM ALWAYS FOR YOU AND YOUR FAMILY!

    1. Hi Sure Auster – thank you for the kind words and I can always use prayer!:-) I have a thing about oil. Any kind of oil because it’s pure fat and usually without real benefit that can’t be obtained in another manner such as eating codfish, instead of just the oil. A nice piece of cod would be a better choice and I’d say no on the coconut oil. Shalom 🙂

  61. Hey there thanks for all the amazing info! I am wondering if someone with Chronic Pancreatitis in its early stages who takes very good care of themselves and their pancreas could partake in an alcoholic beverage once or twice a week. Is this possible? I know you mentioned that you smoke, how to swing that as well? Anything you could relay would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

    1. Brian – you’re welcome. I wouldn’t drink. Alcohol is definitely out. I smoke. It hasn’t seemed to bother me. But that doesn’t mean it’s a good idea either. I have been contemplating quitting. But alas as of yet it is merely a contemplation 🙂

  62. Hi Paul,

    Thank you for creating this side and allow people share their experiences.

    Mom mother had her first pancreatic attack 7 weeks before, she stayed in hospital along one week.
    After docs let us go back to home. It was the wrong attitude of mine to give her meat. The day after, we had to return back to hospital again. After taking one week treatment, she was discharged from the hospital and her pains were decayed over time and disappeared. She is right now fine but only bad thing with her is weigth loss; I have read many things on line, saying that it can take time to regain the weigth one has lost.

    At the hospital period, they saw a gallstone that had blocked the pancreas’s secreation in the first ultrasonic investigation. In the second one, blocking gallstone had disappeared.

    She is now eating fat-free nourishments even without olive oil ingredient dinners.
    Shea ate botino, and boiled skinless chicken. After reading your advices I decided that botino might be dangerous since it can cause an attack again. I know that legumes are fine to eat for her health.

    Last time we went to examination which is 5 weeks after she had her second attack docs said us that she had a severe pancreatits and they will make a surgery. Before the surgery docs will see results of tomography and blood values. I can estimate for what they will make this surgery but I do not exactly know for what. We will have a chance to ask about these important details before the surgery.

    Beside that it is really hard to live with the risk of having these attacks again and again even she looks fine for now. This illness, can it be a thing that may shorthen the life time. By the way she is 66 years old.

    What would be your advices for us?

    1. Hi Cagdas – sorry to hear about your mom. I know you are worried. My advice is to see to find out what the doctors have in mind. Ask a lot of questions. Get the answers you need. Watch carefully what she eats. You can find my ideas (what I do) about diet and supplements that help the pancreas heal on this site. Let me know how she’s doing and what they (the docs say). What is botino?

      1. Dear Paul,

        This was the day we go to examination after 5 weeks she dischared from the hospital. Fortunately, the news are good.

        The doc compared the results of both tomograpghy and blood values. He said the current results are fine enough compared to those she had 5 weeks ago and said there is no need to make a surgery. The tomography report shows that collection neighbouring the pankreatit got shrinked for the time being and the doc said that they can check it after 3 months. He also added that she has to increase the number of meals with small amounts in each meal thus this will be not only the good way of dealing with pankreatit but also way of being healty like nikename you have :). On the other hand, he advised, of course, in case of having any complaint regarding to this illness to apply immediately to the hospital again.

        Beside these checking progress, I think, she has started to get back the weight she lost before thus it can be concluded that skinless chickens, fruits and other vegetables seem to work well enough. I always remember the asistant doc’s advice is that she can start eating fat content things after 3 months. We will be definitely carefull about what she eat after that – no fat content meals I think. I am writing this things in detail here beause sufferers can find some common parts like we have in our case and this may help to them.

        By the way, sorry for my typo, I was supposed to write “bonito” instead of “botino”.

        Everything could be worse but hopefully it is not.
        The idea that I had from this experience is to behave organs of the body gently, do not overload them or force to limits that they cannot endure.

        Last but not least, I sincerely wish healty life for everyone in the world.

        Again thanks to you make such a platform for people to be more aware of.

  63. Hi, I have recently been diagnosed with CP and have read your blogs with interest. I am following a 20g low fat diet ( with no more than 5mg at each meal) and has ordered the supplements you recommend. I am a little confused about dosage though. Do I take these once/day or before each meal or snack. Thanks

    1. Hi Sue – Sorry to hear of your recent CP diagnosis. I’m glad to see you are taking the appropriate steps (diet and supplements) to help with symptoms while slowing, even possibly stopping the progression of CP. It is usually best to start slow with the supplements (low dose) and work up. Once a day for maybe a week, then twice a day, then 3 times a day, then 4. This pertains only to grape seed extract, curcumin and vit C. It is trial and error because some people respond to less while others need more. Once you hit 4 times per day then, if you need more, begin increasing the doses (one dose at a time for a week etc) while keeping the frequency the same. Curcumin can cause unwanted stomach issues at higher doses so I’d stay at 2,000 – 2,500 mgs per day and experiment with grape seed extract and vit C. Thank you and let us all know how you are doing. 🙂

  64. THE COMMENT I LEFT A FEW DAYS AGO HAS DISAPPEARED DECIDED TO REPOST…..I first left a comment back in 2013 when my daughter had her first bout of pancreatitis They have told her since that it was not chronic…but she has been in pain since it happened and did all you suggested and got better…..at that time they did not check out the Function of her gallbladder ..only to see if it had stones which it did not….She recently had another attack with her lipase at 30,000,,,this time they did a Hidya scan and saw it was functioning at only 8% and removed it along with performing and IOC ( running dye in her pancreas…and also biopsied her liver with no reason to do so nor with out telling us ….made her liver enzymes go sky high and also sent her lipase up after it Finally had come down. She has been in excruciating pain ever since..especially at the site of the liver but also other areas. They have not explanation of course. Your were so helpful 3 1/2 years ago so I am praying for possible insight from you… again any info would so be appreciated….. Thank you again, we So hope to hear from you soon. God Bless you for what you do. Joyce

  65. Hi i m suffered from CP due to PD and when i am in pain ,am not eating for 4/5days and be on liquid diet until it get low. until that my pain not stopped yet am suffering from since 5 yrs and get bored from this .when i read your blog i am getting excited to know how u cure by yourselves pls give some tips

    1. Hi Saurav – I am sorry to hear you have CP due to pancreas divisum. ALL the tips you need to help you as much as possible can be found on this site. Check out the categories to the right and focus on diet and supplements. They will not cure either your CP or pancreas divisum but may help to give you relief.

  66. Hi. I have learned a tremendous amount in a short time. This may seem like a silly question…in your opinion…would you take the supplements (I can’t take the grapefruit one due to steriods) during an attack (I am currently having pain but not in hospital etc)…I am also suppose to have an EUS in a week. Should I just wait until after that the EUS to start taking things? Also have you heard anything about Ursodiol causing pancreatitis?

    1. Hi Melissa – I have taken grape seed extract and curcumin coupled with aspirin and/or Ibuprofen for an acute attack. IF you get real sick the ER is the best choice. Ibuprofen (800-1000mgs) is the main choice. No food, just water and go to the ER.

      I looked for evidence linking Ursodiol with acute pancreatitis and found nothing that directly linked it yet side effect symptoms looked suspect.
      Ursodiol Side Effects
      Abdominal Pain after Taking Ursodiol
      ursodiol (Oral route)

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